We don't serve illegals in Muskogee

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i have talked to imagration police and they have their hands tied. very few of the illegals get deported because of red tape like this. we need to put in place and inforce a law that deports first not litigate first and if their is a problem they can work it out on the other side then be let back in if ok

The first two times they are apprehended, they are shipped back. Third time, deportation proceedings are brought-up. It's a big hassle and a lot of paperwork on the part of the Border Patrol Agent. You are so right about the Agent's hands being tied!!! Our immigration laws change on an almost daily basis and there's a ton of them.


Chuck

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I think we may be talking about the same thing. I wasn't suggesting citizenship classes. If the parent is legally immigrating here, then the kid is usually clasified as family class immigrant.

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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I was thinking of a situation that if a parent is here on a green card first, then gets pregnant and has a kid, then gets citizenship, the kid should get it too by default. Ditto if the parent and kid immigrate while the kid is underage.

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That would be fine

My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within.

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i like what some places are doing by cutting off illegals from welfare and free housing and detaining them if they can't prove to be legally here and think it should be widened to the entire country. deportation should be imediate and quick and then they can reapply at a later time. also it doesn't do any good if they can just walk across the border unchecked. the border has to be secured for any laws to be effective.

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i like what some places are doing by cutting off illegals from welfare and free housing and detaining them if they can't prove to be legally here and think it should be widened to the entire country. deportation should be imediate and quick and then they can reapply at a later time. also it doesn't do any good if they can just walk across the border unchecked. the border has to be secured for any laws to be effective.

GOOD! It should be that way, throughout this entire country! The numbers of them crossing is astounding! I really believe that the numbers 'guessed' by whoever are way low, compared to 'real' numbers of them. You absolutely correct! We definately need to secure our borders. I heard on the news, where now, illegals out of Florida are going to Windsor, Ontario through the Port of Detroit! We've got a real mess on our hands and it needs to be taken care of... NOW!


Chuck

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How do you know they were illegal? Just because they are Hispanic?

I don't recall making that inference - merely supplying numbers. I *do* find the large disparity (some 37x) of increase between Hispanic registrations and White/Black registrations *combined* telling, however - especially if even a fraction of them are skirting the law as described.

Do you suppose, these numbers are just what the presidential candidates as well as others are counting on and 'why' there has been no mention of our border 'situation' in any of their campaigning? Those rascals!


Chuck

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How do you know they were illegal? Just because they are Hispanic?

I don't recall making that inference - merely supplying numbers. I *do* find the large disparity (some 37x) of increase between Hispanic registrations and White/Black registrations *combined* telling, however - especially if even a fraction of them are skirting the law as described.

Do you suppose, these numbers are just what the presidential candidates as well as others are counting on and 'why' there has been no mention of our border 'situation' in any of their campaigning? Those rascals!


Chuck

As I said above, I don't KNOW that those numbers are for illegal aliens or not. I *suspect* that a fair amount of them MAY be, but have no information to confirm that.

Yes, I think all the candidates play that card.

Mike
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So far, before the law has even taken effect, 20,000 illegal immigrants have left Tulsa. It's not a perfect plan and there are ramifications:

Ooooooo! I like it! There must must be a lot of cheap houses available!

Just in time to buy one and move there in time for Skyfest '08!


I would move to Tulsa but they no longer have Jim Kelly and the Wranglers.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
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How do you know they were illegal? Just because they are Hispanic?

I don't recall making that inference - merely supplying numbers. I *do* find the large disparity (some 37x) of increase between Hispanic registrations and White/Black registrations *combined* telling, however - especially if even a fraction of them are skirting the law as described.

Do you suppose, these numbers are just what the presidential candidates as well as others are counting on and 'why' there has been no mention of our border 'situation' in any of their campaigning? Those rascals!


Chuck

As I said above, I don't KNOW that those numbers are for illegal aliens or not. I *suspect* that a fair amount of them MAY be, but have no information to confirm that.

Yes, I think all the candidates play that card.

I would think, those numbers aren't THAT far off. From what I've seen though, most illegals are afraid to vote for fear of getting caught and sent back. I think too, that's why most of them pay bills with money orders rather than have a bank account. They just don't want to do anything that might get them caught. Yet, the politicians 'think' they are going to get those votes. Maybe, the illegals have some idea that this will get them 'easy' citizenship?


Chuck