Five Good Samaritans stopped a rape in progress

[warpedskydiver 0]

http://www.kptv.com/news/14441750/detail.html
http://www.kptv.com/video/14446376/index.html

SALEM, Ore. -- Five Good Samaritans stopped a rape in progress in a south Salem neighborhood, according to police.

Officers said a 22-year-old woman on crutches was walking near the intersection of Liberty and Boone streets southeast just before 1 a.m. Saturday when she was attacked and assaulted by 37-year-old Paul Landingham.

According to authorities, a car with five people was driving by, saw what was happening and came to the woman's rescue.

Three men pulled Landingham off the woman and held him until police arrived at the scene.

The victim was transported to an area hospital.

Landingham was taken into custody on first-degree rape charges.

Take a look at the picture of the suspect. The good samaritans did more than "hold" him, after he resisted their citizens arrest.

Too bad they did not kill him.

[mnealtx 0]

Thankfully, the young woman didn't have a gun, so further violence wasn't perpetrated in our society.



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Good for the 5 who cared enough to act!!

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[beowulf 1]

no the "official" word is held.
Unofficially they beat the shit out of him while waiting for the cops. Good for them to stop and do something.

[beowulf 1]

I disagree. If she had and shot the SOB it would good riddence to trash. On the other hand it is likely that all she would have had to do is display the hand gun and the rapist would most likely have changed his mind and backed off. No one really wants to get shot.

[AWL71 0]

Looks like they did a good job of "holding" him until police arrived. What a scumbag. Hopefully he will get a taste of his own medicine in prison when he becomes someones "girlfriend."

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[warpedskydiver 0]

You would be suprised at how many perps think that someone with a gun is bluffing.

I actually had someone say "you won't shoot me"

He changed his mind, right after the safety made a click.

Rifle wounds make owies.

[rehmwa 2]

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Take a look at the picture of the suspect. The good samaritans did more than "hold" him, after he resisted their citizens arrest.

Too bad they did not kill him.

Then they would have been responsible for murder and absolutely should go to jail.

Stopping and holding him (only) is the right thing to do. We don't need vigilantism - even when dealing with scum like this guy. He will see punishment under LAW.

I'm hoping he got beat because he tried to escape and they had to stop him. Or they ran up and kicked him in the face to knock him immediately off the woman. That's justified and absolutely the right thing to do. It's the adult thing to do and better measure of the men.

If they just beat him for the hell of it in a self righteous tantrum, then they should be tried on assault as a completely separate crime. This is more appropriate to children and the weak willed.

Do you see the difference?

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[warpedskydiver 0]

What difference?

If he resisted and was a danger to those who were arresting him, they were in the right to defend themselves with whatever means neccessary.

[beowulf 1]

Yeah bottom line don't point a gun at something you are not willing to shoot.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Your response speaks volumes.

[rehmwa 2]

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What difference?

If he resisted and was a danger to those who were arresting him, they were in the right to defend themselves with whatever means neccessary.

Now you are saying he resisted and the five were in danger. That is definitely justified as I explicitly wrote.

I read the original post as you assuming and approving of a little vigilante 'justice'. (He's off the woman and the 5 have him and decided to 'rough him up' after the fact)

So what did you really mean in the first post?

What about "Too bad they didn't kill him"

That's a lot different than "too bad he didn't fight back enough so they HAD to kill him" (which I'd also be ok with)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[warpedskydiver 0]

It was actually a verbatim repost.

BTW I was not trying to pick a fight with you.

[rehmwa 2]

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It was actually a verbatim repost.

Oh, then my comments were to the original - whoever that was, not so much you

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[warpedskydiver 0]

You and I agree on quite a few topics.

[mnealtx 0]

Agreed - the woman would have been justified in inflicting damage in self-defense.

The Samaritans would have been justified in inflicting damage in the initial takedown, or if he tried attacking them.

Administering a beatdown *after* the takedown is assault.

Warped - compare it to a normal arrest - if the police administered a beatdown after running down a pickpocket, you'd be up in arms about it. The same principle applies here.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[warpedskydiver 0]

Agreed.

[rehmwa 2]

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Your response speaks volumes.

It does it says this - we need to do the right thing to protect the weak and protect ourselves. We need to act, act quickly, and act with sufficient force to stop the threats and keep the criminals in check so that the justice system can punish them.

We obligated to do NO LESS than that. And it's equally important that we do NO MORE than that also - we should not cross the line into criminal behavior at any time.


what 'volumes' were you inferring?

Edit: (I think I took that comment in the wrong way - nevermind)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[rehmwa 2]

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BTW I was not trying to pick a fight with you.

I thought you were. My bad. Here's one on me

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[warpedskydiver 0]

It's ok, brb I need the other half pot of coffee that is calling to me.

[Richards 0]

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Too bad they did not kill him.

[rehmwa 2]

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Too bad they did not kill him.

Now now....he has a problem and needs some help. He has uncontrollable sexual urges and cannot be held accountable for his actions. If they had a shred of compassion they would have helped this guy overcome this problem by removing his genitals (there must have been something sharp lying around) thus eliminating his urges.

[Richards 0]

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***Too bad they did not kill him.

Now now....he has a problem and needs some help. He has uncontrollable sexual urges and cannot be held accountable for his actions. If they had a shred of compassion they would have helped this guy overcome this problem by removing his genitals (there must have been something sharp lying around) thus eliminating his urges.

why can't he just go to an airport's public restroom or hire an intern like the rest of the perverts?

[kallend 2,146]

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Too bad they did not kill him.

Now now....he has a problem and needs some help. He has uncontrollable sexual urges and cannot be held accountable for his actions. If they had a shred of compassion they would have helped this guy overcome this problem by removing his genitals (there must have been something sharp lying around) thus eliminating his urges.

why can't he just go to an airport's public restroom or hire an intern like the rest of the perverts?

[Darius11 12]

Lets see the guy was raping a woman who was on crutches and was caught in the act. I say put him on his knees and put a bullet to the back of his head Spirit asante MOFO.


Fuck the law, fuck the guy getting 5 years end him now period.

I know we will never agree on this, just stating MHO

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[ryoder 1,590]

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Take a look at the picture of the suspect. The good samaritans did more than "hold" him, after he resisted their citizens arrest.

Too bad they did not kill him.

Then they would have been responsible for murder and absolutely should go to jail.

Stopping and holding him (only) is the right thing to do. We don't need vigilantism - even when dealing with scum like this guy. He will see punishment under LAW.

I'm hoping he got beat because he tried to escape and they had to stop him. Or they ran up and kicked him in the face to knock him immediately off the woman. That's justified and absolutely the right thing to do. It's the adult thing to do and better measure of the men.

If they just beat him for the hell of it in a self righteous tantrum, then they should be tried on assault as a completely separate crime. This is more appropriate to children and the weak willed.

Do you see the difference?

Anyone who disagrees with what rehmwa is saying here, needs to go do some reading of the law. What he is stating is the law.

When I was in college, I did some research on self-defense law for a project, then interviewed the shift commander of the local PD to get clarification on a few points.

For those of you who think you have a right to use violence to hold a suspect in a citizens arrest; Newflash: You don't. Anything beyond tackling the guy and holding him in a bearhug opens you up to assault charges.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.