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I think it is about time people stand up to the wasteful spending of governments (federal, state/provincial, and municipal) and start demanding fiscal accountability for a change. I would love to find a government that actually spent the same amount of money that it collected, that didn't over tax us, that delivered services that help the common person and didn't cater to special interests groups (whether they be social welfare groups or greedy corporations). But this type of political party does not seem to exist anywhere. They either cater to the ultra rich, or they promise the world and never deliver to the poor.


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But this type of political party does not seem to exist anywhere. They either cater to the ultra rich, or they promise the world and never deliver to the poor.

Well there is the Libertarian party, but too many people are too chicken-shit to want that much freedom. So we continue to get elections of Tweedle-dum vs. Tweedle-dee.
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I think it is about time people stand up to the wasteful spending of governments (federal, state/provincial, and municipal) and start demanding fiscal accountability for a change.



It is about time.

I wonder why no one has done it before now.



Something to do with mealy-mouthed, low life, scum sucking, bottom feeding, spineless, weak kneed toadying, lying whining, lily-livered, weaseling dirty, worthless, rotten, heartless, depraved, revolting, worm tongued, vote grubbing maggots we call politicians?
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Something to do with mealy-mouthed, low life, scum sucking, bottom feeding, spineless, weak kneed toadying, lying whining, lily-livered, weaseling dirty, worthless, rotten, heartless, depraved, revolting, worm tongued, vote grubbing maggots we call politicians?



You got that right - the politicians on "their" side sure do match that description. It's a shame, because the politicians on "my" side are trying so hard to make this a better world.

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Maybe the next Pres should bring Ben (of Ben and Jerry fame) Cohen into the cabinet. Here's a quote from an interview last year.




Please tell me your joking! I just woke up and maybe I didnt see the sarcasm.:S


Not joking at all.:|
Why waste $billions annually babysitting an outdated pig of a nuclear arsenal when you can spend the money making citizens smarter or healthier. Which does more to make the country secure? Even if you don't like the idea of spending money on Americans I'd hope that you'd at least appreciate the spirit of trying to find government waste and re-route it. I hear plenty about not wanting to the government to be a "nanny" but I never hear anyone bitch about how much money we spend storing milk in caves.

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I think it is about time people stand up to the wasteful spending of governments (federal, state/provincial, and municipal) and start demanding fiscal accountability for a change.



It is about time.

I wonder why no one has done it before now.



Something to do with mealy-mouthed, low life, scum sucking, bottom feeding, spineless, weak kneed toadying, lying whining, lily-livered, weaseling dirty, worthless, rotten, heartless, depraved, revolting, worm tongued, vote grubbing maggots we call politicians?



And we have a big "whoosh" going out to our listener in Chicago.

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I was just in CA and gas wasn't $3.49, or even close, unless you bought it at the rip-off artists called "rental car agencies".



Most of SF is close to that - 3.20s and 3.30s for regular. I was surprised to see an article talking about $3 gas returning - it's been here for at least a month. The delta is unusually high at this moment.

But it has nothing to do with the *Republican* governor and the Democratic lead legislature in Sacramento. Our need to deal with air quality issues has resulted in our own fomulation of gas which cannot be purchased from just any refinery. Add to that the industry's cartel pricing in using zip code income levels to determine the wholesale price. (and if we are to blame a party for that, clearly its the GOP)

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I'd hope that you'd at least appreciate the spirit of trying to find government waste and re-route it.




How about not taking the money from the people in the first place. They cut spending all the time on programs but they spend it again and never give any back. They can cut all the programs they want. They will find some other way to hand over tax dollars to people who didnt work for it.
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I think it is about time people stand up to the wasteful spending of governments (federal, state/provincial, and municipal) and start demanding fiscal accountability for a change. I would love to find a government that actually spent the same amount of money that it collected, that didn't over tax us, that delivered services that help the common person and didn't cater to special interests groups (whether they be social welfare groups or greedy corporations). But this type of political party does not seem to exist anywhere. They either cater to the ultra rich, or they promise the world and never deliver to the poor.



The Libertarian party believes income taxes are theft and that services should be paid for by user fees, like the rural fire departments that have a paid subscription service.

Of course without handouts they're not electable especially in the first-past-the-post voting systems which produces only two viable political parties that are largely alike.

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I think it is about time people stand up to the wasteful spending of governments (federal, state/provincial, and municipal) and start demanding fiscal accountability for a change. I would love to find a government that actually spent the same amount of money that it collected, that didn't over tax us, that delivered services that help the common person and didn't cater to special interests groups (whether they be social welfare groups or greedy corporations). But this type of political party does not seem to exist anywhere. They either cater to the ultra rich, or they promise the world and never deliver to the poor.



The Libertarian party believes income taxes are theft and that services should be paid for by user fees, like the rural fire departments that have a paid subscription service.


If I don't pay my dues to the police department will they not give me speeding tickets?:)

What happens if my car catches fire while I'm driving through, say, Ohio (I live in Illinois). Will they ask for a subscription before they pull me out and try to resuscitate me?

Who pays to maintain the White House? The military? Subscription service or user fees again?


Seems to me that all there are likely to be some unforseen consequences.
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If I don't pay my dues to the police department will they not give me speeding tickets?



The highway police were paid for with the access fee you paid to the highway owners to use their roads. If the highway owner has opted for an autobahn like system you don't get a speeding ticket.

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What happens if my car catches fire while I'm driving through, say, Ohio (I live in Illinois). Will they ask for a subscription before they pull me out and try to resuscitate me?



Most likely fire protection is included in the toll you pay to use the highway.

The Really Big Fire Department of America, Inc. could honor your subscription card wherever you are.

The local department could have a reciprocity agreement with your local fire department who you already paid.

Or upon production of ID indicating you aren't a resident (and just waiting until you need service to pay for your fire insurance) the local company provides service in exchange for a lien against your car.

Or Fire Fighters Local Cooperative #467 do it in exchange for service.

Or the individuals at the Charitable Fire Company do it for free because they think free fire protection is worth a few days of service a month or they were paid by people who thought that way.

You'd probably get saved (rescuing people's a decent thing to do and best part of the job!) if you didn't have charitable aid and didn't pay, although your car would only survive if that was the best way to prevent damage to other cars or the infrastructure.

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Who pays to maintain the White House? The military? Subscription service or user fees again?



Tourists or the Republican Historical Preservation Society pay for the White House Museum.

The military is unnecessary because states have no rights individuals don't, and individuals don't have the right to invade other peoples' property.

The people have a vested interest in providing for their own defense if some foreign country decides to invade. Some of us keep rifles and provisions in our basements. Some might want privately owned war ships as in the time of our founding fathers.

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I have a question. I just lost a shitload of money (for me it was a lot) in the stock market in the last month. Can I claim my loss on my taxes? Probably not but they want there share if you gain any.



Yes but it requires realizing the loss (selling the stocks and not just having a decrease in your net worth on paper) and may take a while.

Capital losses offset capital gains. If there's any left over you can offset up to $3000 of ordinary income (married people don't double that). Anything left carries over to subsequent years.

When a stock becomes completely worthless (company goes out of business or is sold with nothing going to the common stock holders) you mark it as sold in the last day of the year for $0 and take the appropriate losses. I've sold worthless stock from two startups so far and am hoping the shares I own in a third don't suffer the same fate.

There are some rules about how long and short term losses offset the corresponding gains, you'd have to read the appropriate publications or ask your accountant.

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If I don't pay my dues to the police department will they not give me speeding tickets?



The highway police were paid for with the access fee you paid to the highway owners to use their roads. If the highway owner has opted for an autobahn like system you don't get a speeding ticket.

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What happens if my car catches fire while I'm driving through, say, Ohio (I live in Illinois). Will they ask for a subscription before they pull me out and try to resuscitate me?



The Really Big FIre Department of America, Inc. honors your subscription card wherever you are. Or upon production of ID indicating you aren't a resident (and just waiting until you need service to pay for your fire insurance) they provide service in exchange for a lien against your car.

Or fire protection is included in the toll you pay to use the highway.

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Who pays to maintain the White House? The military? Subscription service or user fees again?



Tourists or the Republican Historical Preservation Society pay for the White House Museum.

The military is unnecessary because states have no rights individuals don't, and individuals don't have the right to invade other peoples' property.

The people have a vested interest in providing for their own defense if some foreign country decides to invade. Some of us keep rifles and provisions in our basements. Some might want privately owned war ships as in the time of our founding fathers.



Cool, I'm almost inclined to join.
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The highway police were paid for with the access fee you paid to the highway owners to use their roads. If the highway owner has opted for an autobahn like system you don't get a speeding ticket.



So what do I do when a single highway company buys up all my local roads and hikes the user fees by 2,000%?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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For that amount of money you could repair every school in the U.S., plus you could provide health care for every kid in the U.S. who currently doesn't have it.

The war on poverty and programs like Headstart have given us two generations of fat slobs who can't put a proper sentence together. What's next?

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For that amount of money you could repair every school in the U.S., plus you could provide health care for every kid in the U.S. who currently doesn't have it.

The war on poverty and programs like Headstart have given us two generations of fat slobs who can't put a proper sentence together. What's next?



And the war on drugs gave us crime.

All crime.

Only because of the war on drugs.

Yeah.
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The highway police were paid for with the access fee you paid to the highway owners to use their roads. If the highway owner has opted for an autobahn like system you don't get a speeding ticket.



So what do I do when a single highway company buys up all my local roads and hikes the user fees by 2,000%?



Buy a powered parachute and fly it out of your back yard.

If you want some protection from the elements, buy a helicopter. With tort reform that shouldn't be unreasonably priced.

The most likely transition between our current government and a libertarian one would probably give the highways and parks to a corporation wholly owned by the citizens. We probably wouldn't approve highway sales, and would probably vote the board out if they tried to hike prices too much.

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The most likely transition between our current government and a libertarian one would probably give the highways and parks to a corporation wholly owned by the citizens. We probably wouldn't approve highway sales, and would probably vote the board out if they tried to hike prices too much.


What would you call this corporation? A Soviet? The most likely transition between your current government and a libertarian one would be for all the highways to be sold to a corporation for one dollar. That corporation would be owned by Dick Cheney.

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The Republicans spend more money than the Democrates. The only difference is that the Replubicans put the money into their imperialistic military industrial complex while the Democrates promise to spend it socially (and yes we know they can't keep all their promises). Quite frankly, I would say both of your political choices stink. :P


HereHere!! I agree with you on that one.
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I think it is about time people stand up to the wasteful spending of governments (federal, state/provincial, and municipal) and start demanding fiscal accountability for a change.



It is about time.

I wonder why no one has done it before now.



Something to do with mealy-mouthed, low life, scum sucking, bottom feeding, spineless, weak kneed toadying, lying whining, lily-livered, weaseling dirty, worthless, rotten, heartless, depraved, revolting, worm tongued, vote grubbing maggots we call politicians?



I strongly agree with the general description!!!

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It would be nice to read you staying on point just once instead of beating non related subjects.



Some people are able to see connections that others miss.

If you can't see a connection between government spending and this thread, it's not my fault.;)
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The most likely transition between our current government and a libertarian one would probably give the highways and parks to a corporation wholly owned by the citizens. We probably wouldn't approve highway sales, and would probably vote the board out if they tried to hike prices too much.



Hmm, a corporation wholly owned by the people, that collects money from the people for the maintenance of essential public services, with a board of directors that can be voted in and out of office by the people... that sounds extremely familiar, what could it be... oh yeah! Government and taxation!:D



Kudos for some of the best satire seen here for quite some time;)
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