kallend 2,120 #1 October 26, 2007 This is for the USA: Should civilian men remove their hats during the posting of the colors by a military color guard? Or is it just required during the national anthem?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 873 #2 October 26, 2007 I'm thinking varied answers based on upbringing and veteran status. I say both. I still put my hand over my heart during the national anthem and stand at parade rest for the presenting of colors. Apparently the reprogramming in bootcamp works well. I imagine I still take 30" steps too.I also think people should remove hats when going inside a building and especially at a table to eat. I'm old fashioned that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #3 October 26, 2007 The "Flag Code" states that it's just during the anthem. However, it generally equates to anytime the colors are saluted under regulation by a member of the US armed forces, which would include posting.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #4 October 26, 2007 I was always told, to remove cover while posting the colors and during the playing/singing of our National anthem. I always hold my hat over my heart during these times. I don't know if, it is a hard, fast rule, that's just the way I was taught. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #5 October 26, 2007 It can't hurt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 October 26, 2007 Quote This is for the USA: Should civilian men remove their hats during the posting of the colors by a military color guard? Or is it just required during the national anthem? Just look around and do what everyone else does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #7 October 26, 2007 Depends, did they hang the flag upside down? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #8 October 26, 2007 Quote Quote This is for the USA: Should civilian men remove their hats during the posting of the colors by a military color guard? Or is it just required during the national anthem? Just look around and do what everyone else does. That will be difficult, since I am the Grand Marshal at the event, everyone will take the cue from me, and everyone will be wearing a hat.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #9 October 26, 2007 Does your university have something akin to a protocol office? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #10 October 26, 2007 Quote It can't hurt. Lots of things can't hurt. What is the correct thing?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #11 October 26, 2007 QuoteDoes your university have something akin to a protocol office? I've been appointed! hence the question (so many of the ex-military on this forum have expressed strong opinions that I thought this was the easiest way to get a definitive answer. Maybe the Gunny knows, since he's instructing the color guard.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 873 #12 October 26, 2007 per Title 36 of the United States Code Chapter 10 : Section 177. Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade of in review, all persons present except for those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #13 October 26, 2007 Conduct during hoisting, lowering or passing of flag During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag or when the flag is passing in a parade or in review, all persons present except those in uniform should face the flag and stand at attention with the right hand over the heart. Those present in uniform should render the military salute. When not in uniform, men should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Aliens should stand at attention. The salute to the flag in a moving column should be rendered at the moment the flag passes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #14 October 26, 2007 Thank you. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 873 #15 October 26, 2007 wow. never in my life would I have imagined you and I to post something that exact to the other...what are the odds???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,443 #16 October 26, 2007 QuoteWhat is the correct thing? During the presentation of the flag only - Those present in uniform should render the military salute. Salute the flag when it is six paces from the viewer and hold it until the flag has passed six paces beyond. During the presentation of the flag with the National Anthem - Those in uniform should salute the flag at the first note of the National Anthem and hold the salute until the last note is played. When not in uniform, men should remove the hat with the right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart when the flag is six paces from the viewer and hold it until the flag has passed six paces beyond. All persons present should face the flag, stand at attention and salute (Those in uniform using a military salute, those in civilian clothing using the hand over heart salute) on the following occasions: 1. When the flag is passing in a parade or review. 2. During the ceremony of hoisting or lowering the flag. 3. When the National Anthem is played and the flag is displayed. 4. During the Pledge of Allegiance.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #17 October 26, 2007 In an SC Thread no less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #18 October 26, 2007 Quote Aliens should stand at attention. An interesting concept. What if they have tentacles or are just green blobs of jelly? (Hypothetical, we don;t expect any of these at our event).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 October 26, 2007 I have no idea whatsdoeverfeel better now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #20 October 26, 2007 Quote I have no idea whatsdoeverfeel better now? Better than what?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #21 October 27, 2007 QuoteThis is for the USA: Should civilian men remove their hats during the posting of the colors by a military color guard? Or is it just required during the national anthem? I do, whether during post or retreat. I also do so when I pass the colors or when passing a graveyard or a funeral procession.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
point_code 0 #22 October 27, 2007 I think BIGUN nailed it. If yer're not stomping on it or burning it, then you need to be showing your respect for it. There shouldn't be any middle ground here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #23 October 28, 2007 Quote Quote Aliens should stand at attention. An interesting concept. What if they have tentacles or are just green blobs of jelly? (Hypothetical, we don;t expect any of these at our event). I'm pretty sure they need to sit still and quagulate"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites