jakee 1,594 #26 October 25, 2007 Quote what was the tittle I put on the thread???? Did you address that?? No. You did not. If you only wanted people to address that one tiny part of the article then why on earth did you copy and paste the entire thing? Whatever - I apologise unreservedly for addressing the article that you posted. How stupid of me to think that it was up for discussion!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 October 25, 2007 Quote Quote what was the tittle I put on the thread???? Did you address that?? No. You did not. If you only wanted people to address that one tiny part of the article then why on earth did you copy and paste the entire thing? Whatever - I apologise unreservedly for addressing the article that you posted. How stupid of me to think that it was up for discussion! As put before, the post was about what the media was reporting and what was true as for a small partof the content, what was the tittle?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 October 25, 2007 OK, I got to thinking. I feel I was a bit snippy with you. The reason do not matter so, please consider this an apology for my remarks and my tone. rushmc"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #29 October 25, 2007 QuoteHave you considered the fact that most lefties actually despise the military Source of this bullshit please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 October 25, 2007 Source - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. Have you forgotten Murtha's calling the Haditha Marines "murderers" well before any evidence was obtained? How about Kerry's gaffe about Iraq and the military?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #31 October 25, 2007 QuoteSource - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. Have you forgotten Murtha's calling the Haditha Marines "murderers" well before any evidence was obtained? How about Kerry's gaffe about Iraq and the military? Anti war folks are anti WAR. Not anti-military. It's another example of a deliberate false argument. And you're going to tell me that Murtha and Kerry are military hating libs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 October 25, 2007 Quote And you're going to tell me that Murtha and Kerry are military hating libs? well, Kerry.... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #33 October 25, 2007 QuoteSource - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. Your statement is an absolute disgrace! Your inability to distinguish between "anti Iraq war" and "anti-military" reflects very poorly on your intellect or intellectual honesty. I'm sure you would protest if you were lumped together with the few "nuke 'em all" radical right wingers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #34 October 25, 2007 QuoteI'm sure you would protest if you were lumped together with the few "nuke 'em all" radical right wingers. Not anymore. Labels like chickenhawk, neocon, denier get dishonestly thrown around with such regularity most people just ignore them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #35 October 25, 2007 QuoteSource - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. Yes. Because everyone knows that most lefties go on anti war protests.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymiles 3 #36 October 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteI'm sure you would protest if you were lumped together with the few "nuke 'em all" radical right wingers. Not anymore. Labels like chickenhawk, neocon, denier get dishonestly thrown around with such regularity most people just ignore them. So your goal here is to add to the dishonesty and to be eventually ignored? Sounds like a productive day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #37 October 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm sure you would protest if you were lumped together with the few "nuke 'em all" radical right wingers. Not anymore. Labels like chickenhawk, neocon, denier get dishonestly thrown around with such regularity most people just ignore them. So your goal here is to add to the dishonesty and to be eventually ignored? How's you get that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 October 25, 2007 QuoteQuoteSource - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. Have you forgotten Murtha's calling the Haditha Marines "murderers" well before any evidence was obtained? How about Kerry's gaffe about Iraq and the military? Anti war folks are anti WAR. Not anti-military. It's another example of a deliberate false argument. And you're going to tell me that Murtha and Kerry are military hating libs? Try hard as you want. Cant be split"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #39 October 25, 2007 QuoteAnti war folks are anti WAR. Not anti-military. It's another example of a deliberate false argument. It's not a false argument in the Bay Area. Just consider the attempts by Chris Daly to disinvite the Blue Angels during Fleet Week, under the guise of safety, but it takes very little to hear what supporters of this really think. They don't like the sound of freedom one bit. They are a minority. Though the BA is 70+ % Democrat (and higher in some spots), Fleet Week is a very popular event and most people like F-18s, even if they prefer they not be used in war making. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #40 October 25, 2007 QuoteSource - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. And "most lefties" participate in anti-war protests? Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #41 October 25, 2007 Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have you considered the fact that most lefties actually despise the military -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteSource of this bullshit please.Which side of the aisle has constantly tried to shut off the funding for the TROOPS? Who tried to prevent the military vote in Fl. from being counted? Which side thinks that the whole world would be better off if the US didn't have a military? Need I go on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #42 October 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteSource - any anti-war protest...look at how the anti-war folks behave. Your statement is an absolute disgrace! Your inability to distinguish between "anti Iraq war" and "anti-military" reflects very poorly on your intellect or intellectual honesty. I'm sure you would protest if you were lumped together with the few "nuke 'em all" radical right wingers. *yawn* Your diatribe leaves me strangely.... unmoved. You asked for proof and I provided it, as virtually any anti war protest will show. The fact that you do not CARE for the example makes it no less true.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #43 October 26, 2007 Quote*yawn* Your diatribe leaves me strangely.... unmoved. You asked for proof and I provided it, as virtually any anti war protest will show. It's brown, it's steaming and it sure don't smell too good... Again, please show that most lefties attend anti war protests. I mean c'mon dude, I'm sure you know what the difference between 'most' and 'a small subgroup' is, right? You do, right? Helloooooo...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #44 October 26, 2007 QuoteQuote*yawn* Your diatribe leaves me strangely.... unmoved. You asked for proof and I provided it, as virtually any anti war protest will show. It's brown, it's steaming and it sure don't smell too good... Again, please show that most lefties attend anti war protests. I mean c'mon dude, I'm sure you know what the difference between 'most' and 'a small subgroup' is, right? You do, right? Helloooooo... Prove that most anti-war protesters are NOT from the left and we'll discuss it - I submit for evidence that relatively few people on the right will be carrying signage calling for the impeachment of Bush or comparing troops to murderers, again, as shown at anti-war rallys.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #45 October 26, 2007 Quote Prove that most anti-war protesters are NOT from the left and we'll discuss it - I submit for evidence that relatively few people on the right will be carrying signage calling for the impeachment of Bush or comparing troops to murderers, again, as shown at anti-war rallys. You are completely backwards and inside outYou were asked to source the statement that most lefties are anti-military. The evidence you supplied was that (in your opinion) anti war protesters are anti military. For this to qualify as any kind of support at all for your original statement you must show that most lefties attend anti war protests. The idea that most people at anti war protests are lefties is completely fucking irrelevant. Sooo, most lefties are anti military vs. most anti military are lefties - please tell me that you can recognise that those two statements are different, and that you can therefore see where you just fucked up? Which leads us right back to.... show that most lefties attend anti-war protests or admit the pointlessness of your argument. I'd recommend skipping straight to the admission of pointlessness myself, otherwise you'll just keep digging deeper and deeper and deeper... no-one likes to see that. It's embarrassing for everyone.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #46 October 26, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote*yawn* Your diatribe leaves me strangely.... unmoved. You asked for proof and I provided it, as virtually any anti war protest will show. It's brown, it's steaming and it sure don't smell too good... Again, please show that most lefties attend anti war protests. I mean c'mon dude, I'm sure you know what the difference between 'most' and 'a small subgroup' is, right? You do, right? Helloooooo... Prove that most anti-war protesters are NOT from the left and we'll discuss it - I submit for evidence that relatively few people on the right will be carrying signage calling for the impeachment of Bush or comparing troops to murderers, again, as shown at anti-war rallys. Is "I see everything I eat" the same as "I eat everything I see"? You DO have your logic ass-backwards.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 October 26, 2007 *yawn* I've provided examples to show the general sentiment of the left well enough, in regards to the military - if you want notarized statements or head counts to prove a majority, find them yourself. I'll leave you with this - which side of the aisle tries to slam the administration for not providing all the equipment the troops need, while simultaneously trying to cut the funding for the troops?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #48 October 26, 2007 QuoteI've provided examples to show the general sentiment of the left well enough, in regards to the military No you haven't. You have, in fact, completely failed to do any such thing. You've looked at the actions of the most radical elements and equated them to the sentiment of the majority. It's quite simply laughable that you think you can support the statement "most lefties hate the military" by saying "Look at this tiny group of people who are on the left!" It's fucking stupid! Do most righties want gay people to go to hell? Do most righties want abortion doctors to be jailed? Do most righties want christianity to become a state religion? If I find (and I could) statements supporting those positions by right wing groups is the onus then on you to prove that they are not the majority opinion of the right wing? You have failed, my friend.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #49 October 26, 2007 Quote Quote Prove that most anti-war protesters are NOT from the left and we'll discuss it - I submit for evidence that relatively few people on the right will be carrying signage calling for the impeachment of Bush or comparing troops to murderers, again, as shown at anti-war rallys. You are completely backwards and inside outYou were asked to source the statement that most lefties are anti-military. The evidence you supplied was that (in your opinion) anti war protesters are anti military. For this to qualify as any kind of support at all for your original statement you must show that most lefties attend anti war protests. The idea that most people at anti war protests are lefties is completely fucking irrelevant. Sooo, most lefties are anti military vs. most anti military are lefties - please tell me that you can recognise that those two statements are different, and that you can therefore see where you just fucked up? Which leads us right back to.... show that most lefties attend anti-war protests or admit the pointlessness of your argument. I'd recommend skipping straight to the admission of pointlessness myself, otherwise you'll just keep digging deeper and deeper and deeper... no-one likes to see that. It's embarrassing for everyone. Do you think the statement "Most lefties are anti-military" is accurate? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #50 October 26, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Prove that most anti-war protesters are NOT from the left and we'll discuss it - I submit for evidence that relatively few people on the right will be carrying signage calling for the impeachment of Bush or comparing troops to murderers, again, as shown at anti-war rallys. You are completely backwards and inside outYou were asked to source the statement that most lefties are anti-military. The evidence you supplied was that (in your opinion) anti war protesters are anti military. For this to qualify as any kind of support at all for your original statement you must show that most lefties attend anti war protests. The idea that most people at anti war protests are lefties is completely fucking irrelevant. Sooo, most lefties are anti military vs. most anti military are lefties - please tell me that you can recognise that those two statements are different, and that you can therefore see where you just fucked up? Which leads us right back to.... show that most lefties attend anti-war protests or admit the pointlessness of your argument. I'd recommend skipping straight to the admission of pointlessness myself, otherwise you'll just keep digging deeper and deeper and deeper... no-one likes to see that. It's embarrassing for everyone. Do you think the statement "Most lefties are anti-military" is accurate? I don't know. I would lean towards not. Regardless, Mnealtx's argument is appallingly bad, as demonstrated.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
