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So then you are in favor of unreasonable laws which highly restrict the products that are available to consumers. Everyone in California would have the option of buying electric cars, or nothing at all - and you like that! Thanks for the freedom of choice!
Are you related to Paul Winchel or did you learn the skill of putting words in other people's mouths all by yourself?
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> If Schwarzenegger signed a bill mandating that no cars could be sold
>in California after the year 2010 unless they achieved 50 miles per gallon
>or better, would you consider that to be a good law?
Not in those words. I'd go with 35mpg myself by the 2010 model year, gradually increasing to 60mpg over the next 10 years. Gives car companies a chance to adapt.
>in California after the year 2010 unless they achieved 50 miles per gallon
>or better, would you consider that to be a good law?
Not in those words. I'd go with 35mpg myself by the 2010 model year, gradually increasing to 60mpg over the next 10 years. Gives car companies a chance to adapt.
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QuoteI'd go with 35mpg myself by the 2010 model year, gradually increasing to 60mpg over the next 10 years. Gives car companies a chance to adapt.
So to put it another way; you are in favor of slowly outlawing the sale of new cars that get "poor" gas mileage?
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So then you are in favor of unreasonable laws which highly restrict the products that are available to consumers. Everyone in California would have the option of buying electric cars, or nothing at all - and you like that! Thanks for the freedom of choice!
Are you related to Paul Winchel or did you learn the skill of putting words in other people's mouths all by yourself?
Nice dodge. But the fact is, that is exactly what your stated position amounts to. You and billvon are two peas in a pod.
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>So to put it another way; you are in favor of slowly outlawing the sale
>of new cars that get "poor" gas mileage?
Not directly. I would do it via a CAFE system. A car manufacturer can build and sell any car they like provided the AVERAGE economy of all the cars they sell is above X MPG.
How do they do it? Their choice. Ford couls make the Excursion get better gas mileage (a PHEV version of an Excursion could get better than 100mpg on average) or they could sell a lot more Focuses than Excursions to compensate for the Excursion's current poor fuel economy.
>of new cars that get "poor" gas mileage?
Not directly. I would do it via a CAFE system. A car manufacturer can build and sell any car they like provided the AVERAGE economy of all the cars they sell is above X MPG.
How do they do it? Their choice. Ford couls make the Excursion get better gas mileage (a PHEV version of an Excursion could get better than 100mpg on average) or they could sell a lot more Focuses than Excursions to compensate for the Excursion's current poor fuel economy.
So then you are in favor of unreasonable laws which highly restrict the products that are available to consumers. Everyone in California would have the option of buying electric cars, or nothing at all - and you like that! Thanks for the freedom of choice!
The market for cars is much bigger, and compliance with those laws is much easier. Not the same for new gun sales.
It's a federal crime to purchase a handgun from a state outside the one you live in. So Californians would be breaking the law if they went to some other state to purchase their handguns.
Thus, their selection of available handguns to purchase will be severely restricted. And that's what this bill is really all about - not crime. The anti-gunnies snuck one through, thanks to Ahnold's ignorance.
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