Words can be misleading

[lawrocket 3]

Listen, folks:

I have been recently accused of making a threat to another poster. The threat is contained in a post, wherein I wrote:

"I am not in the least bit scared to mash posters into a pulp, or to have their eyes gouged out, and their elbows broken. To have their kneecaps split, and their bodies burned away, and their limbs all hacked and mangled, all those posters. Their heads smashed in and hearts cut out, and their livesr removed, and their bowels unplugged, and their nostrils raped and their bottoms burned off and thier penises...

Yes, it's what I do. Compare me to Dahmer... "

Most people recognize this but as a piece from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Others do not.

I must state that those who did not understand it and mistook my intentions are not correct. It was not intended as a threat.

However, I must also state that these people are not necessarily wrong.

Re-examine what I wrote. Viewed by itself without any context, it's pretty scary. It's the sort of thing that can get a kid kicked out of school, when context is taken away. It's actually grisly - when "Mony Python" is taken away.

Are these posters "wrong" for their beliefs? SUbjective belief and objective reality are not always the same. ONe poster in particular felt that I was targeting her directly with a threat. I was not targeting her with a threat.

However, is she necessarily wrong for believing it?

No. She is not. We know not of her background or of her past. Veterans today cannot handle fireworks on the 4th. It rekindles memories. Certain people cannot handle certain things on the news because it brings back bad memories.

Other people have their guard up for reasons that we do not know. We therefore must tread lightly lest things we write be subjectively misinterpreted.

To jenfly00 - I have thought long and hard about this this afternoon, and did my best to see things from your point of view. And in doing so, I DO see how it could be read in the way you read it.

For that, I apologize. To others who know me better and stuck up for me, I thank you, but it can make things worse. No, I did not intend to threaten her. Still, she may have actually subjectively felt threatened.

Why don't we all cut each other a little slack. And why don't we all stop getting things so personal.

p.s. - it's not the first time I've written about this subject.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2865368#2865368 - where I inadvertently offended a lady by complimenting her on her apparent youth. I saw how she could have been offended after if was explained.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Heck I offend people by my mere existance.

[ExAFO 0]

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Heck I offend people by my mere existance.

I do it with flatulence.

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[warpedskydiver 0]

And here Quade thought it was your breath, see he does not know everything, just more than me.

[rushmc 23]

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Heck I offend people by my mere existance.

I do it with flatulence.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,183]

One day my son (who had had a lot to drink at the time) said to me "one of these days I'm going to cut you into tiny little pieces". I found it very disturbing.

It wasn't until a long time later that I found out it was a line from a Pink Floyd track.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[warpedskydiver 0]

When we say "Careful with that axe Eugene"

1.We are quoting Pink Floyd

2. Genes been drinking again, and has an axe at the Tiki Hut.

[akarunway 1]

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Listen, folks:

I have been recently accused of making a threat to another poster. The threat is contained in a post, wherein I wrote:

"I am not in the least bit scared to mash posters into a pulp, or to have their eyes gouged out, and their elbows broken. To have their kneecaps split, and their bodies burned away, and their limbs all hacked and mangled, all those posters. Their heads smashed in and hearts cut out, and their livesr removed, and their bowels unplugged, and their nostrils raped and their bottoms burned off and thier penises...

Yes, it's what I do. Compare me to Dahmer... "

Most people recognize this but as a piece from Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Others do not.

I must state that those who did not understand it and mistook my intentions are not correct. It was not intended as a threat.

However, I must also state that these people are not necessarily wrong.

Re-examine what I wrote. Viewed by itself without any context, it's pretty scary. It's the sort of thing that can get a kid kicked out of school, when context is taken away. It's actually grisly - when "Mony Python" is taken away.

Are these posters "wrong" for their beliefs? SUbjective belief and objective reality are not always the same. ONe poster in particular felt that I was targeting her directly with a threat. I was not targeting her with a threat.

However, is she necessarily wrong for believing it?

No. She is not. We know not of her background or of her past. Veterans today cannot handle fireworks on the 4th. It rekindles memories. Certain people cannot handle certain things on the news because it brings back bad memories.

Other people have their guard up for reasons that we do not know. We therefore must tread lightly lest things we write be subjectively misinterpreted.

To jenfly00 - I have thought long and hard about this this afternoon, and did my best to see things from your point of view. And in doing so, I DO see how it could be read in the way you read it.

For that, I apologize. To others who know me better and stuck up for me, I thank you, but it can make things worse. No, I did not intend to threaten her. Still, she may have actually subjectively felt threatened.

Why don't we all cut each other a little slack. And why don't we all stop getting things so personal.

p.s. - it's not the first time I've written about this subject.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2865368#2865368 - where I inadvertently offended a lady by complimenting her on her apparent youth. I saw how she could have been offended after if was explained.

Did you buy your gun yet?

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[rehmwa 2]

I hoped to never see you knuckle under to PC whining and overreaction.....

In a couple years, when your son draws a picture of a sword in art class, you can preemptively volunteer to have him expelled from grade school.

She was wrong, and we all know she goes looking for reasons to insult others and have a cow about things. I suspect she knew the quote and chose to ignore that fact. Or, this is just someone with zero sense of the fanciful and humor.

This is a post about you having to go unreasonably out of your way to understand another who makes zero effort to try and understand your posts.

NUTS


(in other words, I really hope your post was more mockery)

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[johndh1 0]

She really should have taken into account what you said about Dahmer and penises, and realized she was safe...unless...?

Or she needs to take a reading comprehension course.

This sort of thing has happened to me numerous times on here, where 200 people read it, and one makes an issue of a tongue-in-cheek or in-jest remark.

Anyone who would take something like what you wrote (especially having seen your own picture as avatar) personally and seriously really needs to reach over and rip their bloody, bleeding, pumping, blood-squirting heart off their red-stained sleeve.

Roll Tide Roll

[AWL71 0]

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I hoped to never see you knuckle under to PC whining and overreaction.....

In a couple years, when your son draws a picture of a sword in art class, you can preemptively volunteer to have him expelled from grade school.

She was wrong, and we all know she goes looking for reasons to insult others and have a cow about things. I suspect she knew the quote and chose to ignore that fact. Or, this is just someone with zero sense of the fanciful and humor.

This is a post about you having to go unreasonably out of your way to understand another who makes zero effort to try and understand your posts.

NUTS


(in other words, I really hope your post was more mockery)

Agreed. I was reading the post in real time and don't see how anyone could have taken your post as a threat. It was obvious that your post was meant in jest.

The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[rehmwa 2]

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it was obvious that your post was meant in jest.

It was JC's post, not mine. I would never write something some inflammatory and threatening and insensitive and callous.

(for the stupid people, the above may be accented with a , or a )

I think every post need a monty python quote in it -"when danger reared his ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled"

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[lawrocket 3]

It's not about me bing PC. As I said, she is not correct. However, she is not "wrong."

Each of us has our own personal issues that are particularly troublesome. Most of us develop that trouble through some experience in the past. This should not be minimized.

My job is seeing things from the other person's side and looking at things from all sides. In that, I can see there are logical reasons why people can react that way.

As I requested, let's cut everyone some slack.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[rehmwa 2]

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My job is seeing things from the other person's side and looking at things from all sides.

In a way, that's everyone's job. It would be nice to see it more.

"Help, help, I'm being repressed"

In tribute to a great poster "Now, Smiley's with every post -

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As I requested, let's cut everyone some slack.

good luck - it's been requested so many times. The net result is the most abusive 5 people go on serious feeding frenzies and you come out the other side and it's worse

mockery is the only solution - take the fangs away

you're a decent guy. that's clearly obvious

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[juanesky 0]

And you are not a nice guy, you are an anti-freeflyer...

"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon

[masterblaster72 0]

This isn't the first time you went out of your way to apologize when you didn't have to.

I still owe you one of these

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[mnealtx 0]

I'm sorry, Sir...you've broken the "8 smiley per post" rule and must now be banned....

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Gawain 0]

"How are you today monsieur?"

"Better."

"Better?"

"Better get a bucket, I'm going to throw up."



"I fart in your general direction!!"

How's that??!!

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[rehmwa 2]

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And you are not a nice guy, you are an anti-freeflyer...

Where'd you get that idea? I freefly quite a bit. I also love CrW (despite the body odors), and surfing (I can't quite bring what I do to the level where I'd call it swooping - but we set up a course last weekend where it was a LOT of fun)

I am anti-(people that just do one discipline and put down the other disciplines). I think they suck and need to 'evolve' and try everything else

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[vortexring 0]

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"How are you today monsieur?"

"Better."

"Better?"

"Better get a bucket, I'm going to throw up."



"I fart in your general direction!!"

How's that??!!

'Wouldn't Sir care for a leetle wah-fir thin mint?'

'Fuck offff - ah'm stuffed.'

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[Gene03 0]

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It's not about me bing PC. As I said, she is not correct. However, she is not "wrong."

Each of us has our own personal issues that are particularly troublesome. Most of us develop that trouble through some experience in the past. This should not be minimized.

My job is seeing things from the other person's side and looking at things from all sides. In that, I can see there are logical reasons why people can react that way.

As I requested, let's cut everyone some slack.

I think I'm offended by your use of the word "cut".

“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him.

Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966)