vortexring 0 #51 October 19, 2007 But what rascism were you subject to? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #52 October 19, 2007 QuoteI have the same justification to call a waste of space whatever I want. Don't you like Bush bashing? I actually like royalty bashing. They serve no good purpose as demonstrated in the Diana Fiasco, among also to centuries of butalities to other civilizations. Interesting you should compare with Bush. I'm not aware that Elizabeth ever started a war under false pretenses that killed tens of thousands of people and injured far more than that, nor that she borrowed hundred of $billions for her grand schemes that her countrymens' children and grandchildren will have to pay for.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #53 October 19, 2007 QuoteQuoteI have the same justification to call a waste of space whatever I want. Don't you like Bush bashing? I actually like royalty bashing. They serve no good purpose as demonstrated in the Diana Fiasco, among also to centuries of butalities to other civilizations. Interesting you should compare with Bush. I'm not aware that Elizabeth ever started a war under false pretenses that killed tens of thousands of people and injured far more than that, nor that she borrowed hundred of $billions for her grand schemes that her countrymens' children and grandchildren will have to pay for. nor, did she ever poorly manage a baseball team but she is homely and the idea of royalty sucks ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #54 October 19, 2007 Royals: Rich people leeching off the public treasury who don't do anything. At least the US Pres/VP/et al actually have a job.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #55 October 19, 2007 QuoteRoyals: Rich people leeching off the public treasury who don't do anything. At least the US Pres/VP/et al actually have a job. Let's see, 10 ft pole. Check And.......Not touching this one with it. Check. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #56 October 19, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWell, why would you? 3. Because people like Kallend want to disarm me. Which are you then, a criminal? Or mentally unbalanced? They are the only classes of people I wish to disarm. yet you post frequently claiming that all criminals were once law abiding citizens, and that the rest have insecure guns easily stolen by burglars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #57 October 19, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWell, why would you? 3. Because people like Kallend want to disarm me. Which are you then, a criminal? Or mentally unbalanced? They are the only classes of people I wish to disarm. yet you post frequently claiming that all criminals were once law abiding citizens, So it's stating the obvious, but some people have difficulty grasping the concept. Quote and that the rest have insecure guns easily stolen by burglars. I have not made that claim. I have pointed out that hundreds of gun accidents and hundreds of thousands of gun thefts annually are clear evidence of carelessness by legal gun owners.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #58 October 19, 2007 I disarmed a boiled lobster last night. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #59 October 19, 2007 Quote I disarmed a boiled lobster last night. ...... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #60 October 19, 2007 Quote I disarmed a boiled lobster last night. I hid John Kallends box of depends, it is where he will never find it. It is hidden next to his sense of humility. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #61 October 19, 2007 >I hid John Kallends box of depends . . . . Last warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #62 October 20, 2007 Three nights ago a local gun and tackel was robbed after hours. 20 something hand guns were stolen along with several shotguns. That same night about 1am a 24 hour dinner was robbed by 4 indviduals armed with shotguns and handguns. They managed to steal $5000. They knew the dinner had video poker machines and kept cash to pay out lucky patrons. They made their get away with a stolen truck that was later recovered near the interstate with the engine still running. The owner of the truck was questioned and ofcourse had nothing to do with it. The gun store owner would like to see the guns recovered and take "off the streets". The dinner owner was glad no one was hurt. Why do you think they used stolen guns? So no one could trace the Serial#, or balistics if someone was killed perhaps? Why do you think thay used a stolen car? So Cops could not trace the car to them? Why do you think they chose a 24 hour dinner and hit it at 1am? Maybe because they knew it had money to pay out the gamblers? "They cassed the Joint". If.......... Some one were killed, and they stilled managed to make a "clean get away", how could you trace the crime to them? Law abiding citizens have regestered guns, that can be traced to them! Cops do not have the fire power to fight a well armed perp! Governers and Senators keep making these Gun laws that only punish the law abiding citizens of this great America! In the USA we have the right to bear arms, but only as long as were kept at bay and have a held hand! Screwthat I want a fully auto AR-15 and to hell all thoes tree huggers if they don't understand why. Those waitresses at that dinner had never commited a crime, they did nothing to provoke having a shotgun pointed at them, but yet the criminals in this country are better armed that the law abiding citizens. Well that changed for me last week. I am now a well armed USA citizen. I still do not have a full auto AR-15, and will not untill the it is legal. THAT IS WHY I HAVE GUNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!_________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #63 October 20, 2007 QuoteLaw abiding citizens have regestered guns, that can be traced to them! Most states do not have any registration system, and there is no registration system federally. In WA I can legally buy or sell guns through the newspaper with no paperwork or traceability. as long as it's not a business. A business would require a federal license. Fed license holders are required to have buyers fill out a form, which the are not supposed to keep beyond a certain time. After that purchase the guy can do pretty much anything with the gun as long as the state allows it. This is a good thing because the govenment has no idea who has what guns for future confiscation, restriction, or taxing. It doesn't increase crime because criminals don't tend to obey the law anyway. Re getting a full-auto, check your stae laws because they are federally legal if you have a clean record and pay a $200 tax stamp fee. They are very expensive though. The laws are also screwy, for example, WA doesn't allow full-auto's but does allow silencers while CA allows full-autos and doesn't allow silencers. Maybe the reason CA allows FA's is because it would be hard for Hollywood to make movies without them. Silencers are federally taxed just like full-autos. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #64 October 20, 2007 Most states do not have any registration system, and there is no registration system federally. In WA I can legally buy or sell guns through the newspaper with no paperwork or traceability. as long as it's not a business. A business would require a federal license. Fed license holders are required to have buyers fill out a form, which the are not supposed to keep beyond a certain time. After that purchase the guy can do pretty much anything with the gun as long as the state allows it.<<<< Interesting, The last couple of times I purchased a handgun from a business, it included a test fire bullit in a little bag.the bsalistics of that round were recorded by federal law. My brother in law had a AK-47 stolen from his home and three years latter he recived a call from the local PD that his fire arm was recovered 4 states away. they found him through a reserch of the serial numbers against the database._________________________________________ Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #65 October 20, 2007 I want a full auto SBS firing 3" mags alternating slugs and 00 buckshot. Unfortunately I cannot in the state is Illinoistan for the goverment has deemed these legal to own weapons illegal for all our residents. It seems the government types in this state would rather only the criminals possess these and many other forearms legal to own under federal laws. http://tromix.com/saiga.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #66 October 20, 2007 Quote Screwthat I want a fully auto AR-15 and to hell all thoes tree huggers if they don't understand why. I still do not have a full auto AR-15, and will not untill the it is legal. Transferable conversions start at $10,000 plus $200 transfer tax. Move to a state which doesn't restrict class 3 ownership and pony up! MIght be expensive to feed though; .223 is now over $250 a case of 1000. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #67 October 20, 2007 Quote It seems the government types in this state would rather only the criminals possess these and many other forearms legal to own under federal laws. http://tromix.com/saiga.htm Sorry to hear that your preferred forearms are illegal in Illinois. How about your shins and thighs? Perhaps you should move to Alaska.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #68 October 20, 2007 piss taking b'stard (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #69 October 20, 2007 QuoteInteresting, The last couple of times I purchased a handgun from a business, it included a test fire bullit in a little bag. Assuming that's what the bullet was for, you must live in the one state doing that now, and the Stata Police there have asked the government to cut funding for the program because it has not contributed to solving a single crime. California wanted to do it but when they did a test using 750 CHP guns they got less than 40% correct matches. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #70 October 20, 2007 Quote I want a full auto SBS firing 3" mags alternating slugs and 00 buckshot. Unfortunately I cannot in the state is Illinoistan for the goverment has deemed these legal to own weapons illegal for all our residents. It seems the government types in this state would rather only the criminals possess these and many other forearms legal to own under federal laws. http://tromix.com/saiga.htm I'm in WA and they don't allow "machine guns" in this state. State law defines a machine gun as: "(7) "Machine gun" means any firearm known as a machine gun, mechanical rifle, submachine gun, or any other mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir clip, disc, drum, belt, or other separable mechanical device for storing, carrying, or supplying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism, or instrument, and fired therefrom at the rate of five or more shots per second." Sounds like a 12ga that cycles at 4.5 rounds/sec should be just fine. I wonder how the ATF defines full-autos. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #71 October 20, 2007 Quote Sorry to hear that your preferred forearms are illegal in Illinois. How about your shins and thighs? Quote Perhaps you should move to Alaska. Wait...isn't that where they keep and arm bears?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #72 October 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteInteresting, The last couple of times I purchased a handgun from a business, it included a test fire bullit in a little bag. Assuming that's what the bullet was for, you must live in the one state doing that now, and the Stata Police there have asked the government to cut funding for the program because it has not contributed to solving a single crime. California wanted to do it but when they did a test using 750 CHP guns they got less than 40% correct matches. Actually, I believe that mandate started in New Jersey.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #73 October 20, 2007 Quote Quote Sorry to hear that your preferred forearms are illegal in Illinois. How about your shins and thighs? Quote Perhaps you should move to Alaska. Wait...isn't that where they keep and arm bears? Here in the South, we have the right to bare arms! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #74 October 20, 2007 QuoteRoyals: Rich people leeching off the public treasury who don't do anything. At least the US Pres/VP/et al actually have a job. In 'title' only! You put it that way, I don't see any difference! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #75 October 22, 2007 Oh I must have not made a typo huh, gee Dr. Obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
