warpedskydiver 0 #1 October 18, 2007 Here is a good reason. QuoteOn the morning of May 8, off-duty Elgin police officer Herschell Glenn murdered James Wright and Lillian Final after accosting the young couple in Lords Park. Wright, 18, and Final, 20, were on their first date. Glenn had tried, unsuccessfully, to pick up another young woman earlier in the day. Forcing Wright into the trunk of the couple's Lincoln, Glenn drove Final to a secluded, east-side factory warehouse. There, he raped and murdered her. Wright was driven to a separate location and shot seven times. One of the few questions Glenn, then 24, asked after he was picked up was whether the arrest would affect his job as a police officer. The victims' families sued the city of Elgin, eventually settled and split $1.5 million. That murder involved my childhood friend Lillian, she was sweet, and kind and never bothered a soul. That date she was on was her very first date EVER. She was 19yrs old. The motherfucker that did it is out of prison now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #2 October 18, 2007 Because per the US Supreme Court, the police do not have a duty to protect any individual person, just the society as a whole. The individual person therefore has an obligation to protect themselves.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 October 18, 2007 My standard answer is: If the police have assigned an officer to be at your side 24x7, they can protect you. If not, then your defense if your responsibility."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #5 October 18, 2007 QuoteMy standard answer is: If the police have assigned an officer to be at your side 24x7, they can protect you. If not, then your defense if your responsibility. That is my standard answer as well when people say we don't need firearms for personal protection since we have the police.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #6 October 18, 2007 Quote The motherfucker that did it is out of prison now. How in the fuck is that possible???"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 October 18, 2007 Our previous Governor George Ryan, who is now in a federal prison, placed a moratorium on death sentences, so they were all commuted to life, that has been considered 20yrs since his convictions on the two murders were served concurrently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #8 October 18, 2007 QuoteWhy Do We Need a Firearm if We Have the Police to Protect Us? Because I rather die trying to save the people I love then to live with regret. One other reason that an armed public is a safe public is to keep the government in line in case it ever gets out of line. If we ever have a crazy president that decides to become a dictator and our congress and military does not act we as the American citizens can stand and fight for our constitution. I am sorry about your friend and the scumbag getting outbro.That sucks Have you ever watched the movie The Boondock saints? More and more every day I wish that movie would become reality.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #9 October 18, 2007 Darius you have become a damn fine US Citizen, too bad others were born so and would give away their rights, and ours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #10 October 18, 2007 Thank you sir. I have lived in a country that used to be the bright light of the Middle East, the cradle of culture and modernization in the Muslim world. In 1979 they turned it back 300 years over night just with politics, and propaganda. The sheep followed the bull shit and now you see where we are. I know from experience that your whole reality can change over night. I was very young when all that went down but I remember it and I will die to make sure that does not happen to my home. The founding fathers were some of smartest people on this planet they gave the power of America not to a man but to a document that we must all protect.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites