freeflybella 0 #26 October 19, 2007 I'm not saying Ellen is a bad person. Or that she didn't have the best interests of everyone involved at heart. It must suck to feel like you have to give a dog back to a shelter after 'rescuing' him. My inclination would be to find a good home for it to. I also agree with you that there aren't any winners here. Out of all the things that happened - there are 2 things that are really really bad: 1- the kid got a dog and then had it taken away. Hopefully someone explained the real reason and helped her make honest sense of it. 2- Ellen brought bad press (and apparently death threats) to an organization whose mission it is to teach compassion, and that companion animals aren't disposable - and to rescue those animals in need. A good/safe home for animals is more imposrtant than the whims of people. I would also hope that every effort is made to return that dog to the family Ellen gave it to. If not, I'd also hope there is a good reason why. Next, Ellen should be apologizing to Mutts and Moms. EDited: On second thought ... Death and arson threats?!. Ellen is fucking insane for going on national TV and weeping and sobbing and begging. Insane. She ruined that business. She could've handled it in about 500 different ways. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #27 October 19, 2007 Quote1- the kid got a dog and then had it taken away. Hopefully someone explained the real reason and helped her make honest sense of it. Yes please, what was the "real" reason to separate a kid and her dog? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #28 October 19, 2007 Quote Ellen is fucking insane for going on national TV and weeping and sobbing and begging. Oh dear.Ellen has a daily TV showed viewed by millions of people and an obligation to do the show. Sometimes when we're emotional--no matter how hard we try--we can't hide it. Anyone in a position such as hers is bound to have a whack day. I can't speak for her, but I'd be willing to bet in retrospect she'd have considered your 500 alternatives. Since that day, she has equally if not more pleaded for the death threats to cease. She repeats the mistake is/was hers. I agree it was not the right thing to do to make a plea on her show. I think it would have been totally appropriate to cry if she could not contain her emotions, but maybe have kept her speech down to a shout. I.e. left the "Please give the dog back to the family" part out of it. The rest of her "sobbing & weeping" speech was fine to me. She wasn't publicly bashing Mutts and Moms. She explained how she made a mistake and felt completely responsible for another's loss b/c of it. Great. Now we know why Ellen's sad today. On with the show. No pleas. I rarely support the plight of celebs. And I admit I'm biased here, b/c I like Ellen. She's funny. Although she's becoming a bit too political for my taste this season. Anywho, what was I saying? Oh yea--don't normally support celebs. But, I think "fucking insane" is a bit harsh. Just a little. Harsh. Edited for too many commas.Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #29 October 19, 2007 Quote a bit harsh Yeah, you're probably right. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leewilcox 0 #30 October 20, 2007 First hit from Google Mutts and Moms Petfinder.com Mutts and Mom has chosen to temporarily inactivate their website on Petfinder.com because their email inbox and voice mail are overwhelmed. ..."Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion" - Democritus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #31 October 20, 2007 QuoteSituations like this are yet another reason I am all for gay couples adopting children, too. why.. so that they can decide the child doesn't mix well in their family, and then just give it away to someone else?CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #32 October 20, 2007 Does that mean she "had" her dog? "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #33 October 21, 2007 Don't mean to sound like a grumpy old man (OK, maybe I do), but: In my day, when someone didn't like their dog, they frequently shot the dog. In my grandmother's day, dogs were sometimes part of the menu (especially young pups - it was the depression, after all). Seems like to me, if someone gives an animal they don't want to keep to a loving home, then who cares?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #34 October 21, 2007 Am I the only one who sees the complete insanity in this whole drama? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #35 October 21, 2007 Nope Chris, I'm with you. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElJosh 0 #36 October 21, 2007 The "big deal" is a breach of contract on Ellen’s part. Is the content of the contract retarded. . .I think so, but that isn't what the issue is. Ellen signed something that she didn't read or adhere to and now she is in boo-who's-ville over it. Just like the waivers that skydivers sign. You can't come back and tell the DZO that you didn't know this or that because you didn't read it. IMO Ellen tried to use her celebrity status to strong arm the organization. I think that the M&M company is retarded but Ellen agreed to a contract and then broke the agreement to said contract. This is my long winded response of agreeing with tony/chris. ~El Josh AKA Ruby Now lets quit wasting our time on this and worry about important stuff like Britney and her kids! DS #149 Yes I only have 3 jumps...it's the magic number dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #37 October 21, 2007 <> I can't speak for Chris... but that is exactly my position.... It's a none issue... NEXT. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #38 October 21, 2007 Quote Am I the only one who sees the complete insanity in this whole drama? I found it amusing when I signed the papers to adopt my kitten yesterday. The woman from the rescue program said "Now this is our Ellen DeGeneres clause..." "There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #39 October 21, 2007 Quote Quote Am I the only one who sees the complete insanity in this whole drama? I found it amusing when I signed the papers to adopt my kitten yesterday. The woman from the rescue program said "Now this is our Ellen DeGeneres clause..." Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
