lawrocket 3 #1 October 17, 2007 So I'm being tailgated by some dude and the person in front of me makes a turn, requiring me to slow down. Who am I being tailgated by? A big pickup truck - you know with the lift kit and big-ass knobby tires. The sort of thing that you reckon a needle dick would drive. Well, this guy had to hit the brakes hard. I kept on going and entered the freway. I realize he's tailgating me more closely. I switch lanes. He switches. I switch again, he switches. I've read some detective novels in my day, and I figure "I'm being followed." I slow down and he's tailgating me on the freeway for a mile. I formulate my plan of exit to the most public spot I can find. And think to myself, "Fuck. I gotta get a gun." After about a mile and a half, asshole decides to pass. He's got this Chevy pickup. Painted red. Get this - a German Cross on the tailgate. He had two things pasted across the rear cab window - "WHITE PRIDE" and "FOURTEEN WORDS." (I now know what "FOURTEEN words" means.) I learned this AFTER he rode alongside, yelling, screaming and cussing, flipping me the bird, etc. Carrying on like a real asshole. He actually faked a move to run me off the road. The guy was a skinhead. Shaved bare. A skinny looking white dude. Probably on meth, too. Now, take a look at my avatar. 6'1", blonde hair, blue eyes. And this guy was acting like he was gonna fucking kill me. He's just an asshole. He is a racist, which automatically makes him an asshole. But he's an asshole to crackers like me, too. What an asshole. And this week I'll be purchasing a little heat. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #2 October 17, 2007 And this week I'll be purchasing a little heat. Quote Save some $$...box of roofing nails dumped out the window would have been funnier! Or flash him the ole "eight eight" ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #3 October 17, 2007 Hope this cheers you up some_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #4 October 17, 2007 Quote So I'm being tailgated by some dude and the person in front of me makes a turn, requiring me to slow down. Who am I being tailgated by? A big pickup truck - you know with the lift kit and big-ass knobby tires. The sort of thing that you reckon a needle dick would drive. Well, this guy had to hit the brakes hard. I kept on going and entered the freway. I realize he's tailgating me more closely. I switch lanes. He switches. I switch again, he switches. I've read some detective novels in my day, and I figure "I'm being followed." I slow down and he's tailgating me on the freeway for a mile. I formulate my plan of exit to the most public spot I can find. And think to myself, "Fuck. I gotta get a gun." After about a mile and a half, asshole decides to pass. He's got this Chevy pickup. Painted red. Get this - a German Cross on the tailgate. He had two things pasted across the rear cab window - "WHITE PRIDE" and "FOURTEEN WORDS." (I now know what "FOURTEEN words" means.) I learned this AFTER he rode alongside, yelling, screaming and cussing, flipping me the bird, etc. Carrying on like a real asshole. He actually faked a move to run me off the road. The guy was a skinhead. Shaved bare. A skinny looking white dude. Probably on meth, too. Now, take a look at my avatar. 6'1", blonde hair, blue eyes. And this guy was acting like he was gonna fucking kill me. He's just an asshole. He is a racist, which automatically makes him an asshole. But he's an asshole to crackers like me, too. What an asshole. And this week I'll be purchasing a little heat. I had the same thing in Fla happen to me except he got in front of and kept changing lanes so I couldn't pass trying to run me off the road and such. I got on the cell ph. to the cops and laid the pistol on the dash. End of that game. The cops had a roadblock up the interstate waiting but I had to exit for Skdive DeLand. I wonder what ever happened. The pistol ended his game.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #5 October 17, 2007 You never find someone more in support the right to bear arms than me, But I will tell you that I quit carrying in my Car for just this reason. The temptation was too great. Also firing a 45 from inside your car leaves you Deaf for days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #6 October 17, 2007 Quote Also firing a 45 from inside your car leaves you Deaf for days. Doing drive-byes on the mail boxes again?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 October 17, 2007 Today I was driving along in my shiny new red chevy 4x4 and some lawyer dude keeps cutting me off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #8 October 17, 2007 It wasn't you, then. It was a 1980's model. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #9 October 17, 2007 For those who are wondeing about the Fourteen Words thing (like me!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteen_WordsNever try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #10 October 17, 2007 QuoteFor those who are wondeing about the Fourteen Words thing (like me!) Thank you. I was looking into it because I had no idea what they were.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #11 October 17, 2007 I've had this happen to me several times. I don't know if they were skinheads though. I'm Catholic, they don't like my kind either; but they couldn't have known that just by looking at me. Anyway, each time I held my cell phone up through the moonroof and then dialed 911. That always worked. These shitheads are as bad as Al Qaeda or the Taliban. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 October 17, 2007 QuoteAnd this week I'll be purchasing a little heat. Sigh . . . I personally think a single asshole you'll probably never see again is a horrible motivation for making that decision, but if you do decide that you need to do that, hopefully you'll get some training or already have some. Also, check your local laws because I seriously doubt having the gun would have made matters any better. You do realize that you can't even legally carry it, even unloaded, in the passenger compartment in California; right? (There may be exceptions . . . ) What exactly would you have done with the gun; brandish it? Fire it? Does that really seem like that would have "helped" the situation?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #13 October 17, 2007 Quotehopefully you'll get some training or already have some. Does watching Casino 2 times a month count as training?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #14 October 17, 2007 I'm surprised such an incident has left you feeling so insecure you feel it necessary to get, I presume, a handgun. Perhaps a short course on driving techniques which teach you how to extract oneself from such a situation could be more appropriate. Or even some self defence, to at least give you more confidence on dealing with the matter, had you came face to face with the nob-jockey. The gun option for this particular situation doesn't really seem a good option for me. If, perhaps, your driving in some rather isolated areas regularly enough then I'd reckon it isn't such a bad idea. But in your case, how you use your vehicle should be the means of your defence. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #15 October 17, 2007 Quote Today I was driving along in my shiny new red chevy 4x4 and some lawyer dude keeps cutting me off. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #16 October 17, 2007 QuoteAnd this week I'll be purchasing a little heat. There is no better weapon on the road than the car you drive, particularly against high C of G vehicles. Guns have their place, but this was not one of them. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #17 October 17, 2007 Quote I've had this happen to me several times. I don't know if they were skinheads though. I'm Catholic, they don't like my kind either; but they couldn't have known that just by looking at me. Anyway, each time I held my cell phone up through the moonroof and then dialed 911. That always worked. Maybe it was the magnetic Mary on your dashboard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #18 October 17, 2007 What you need is a course in mobile force protection/Offensive driving You would be amazed at what can be done to POS people with the vehicle under your control. Also you can alwys have a nice little dispenser installed under the rear of your car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #19 October 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteAnd this week I'll be purchasing a little heat. Sigh . . . I personally think a single asshole you'll probably never see again is a horrible motivation for making that decision, but if you do decide that you need to do that, hopefully you'll get some training or already have some. Also, check your local laws because I seriously doubt having the gun would have made matters any better. You do realize that you can't even legally carry it, even unloaded, in the passenger compartment in California; right? (There may be exceptions . . . ) What exactly would you have done with the gun; brandish it? Fire it? Does that really seem like that would have "helped" the situation? It may not have helped in this particular situation, but you never know how a situation can escalate.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #20 October 17, 2007 The firearm would be useful after all other options have run out and you cannot drive away. Fire through the door from seat cushion level, leave your window up and never indicate that you are reaching for a weapon. The first couple of rounds that pass through the groin and pelvis/lower abdomen will be quite a deterrent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #21 October 17, 2007 No, this was not the place. A gun would have been useful, however, had the guy followed followed me to a point where I stopped. About the driving, there is a little more going on. This was on a freeway, and he did have a high C of G vehicle. But, any form of offensive driving would have implicated the other drivers on the road. I don't want to cause a wreck implicating others. And if he flips his vehicle, it could have ended up on another vehicle. Offensive driving is fine with me when there is no other traffic. I sure as hell am not gonna menace the guy with a gun because he hasn't raised it to deadly force. But, thinking four steps down the road in the plan, it'd be nice to have in the event the guy was set on doign me some harm. A gun would not have made that situation come out any better. It would be inappropriate to let him know I had one. BUT - it's always better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #22 October 17, 2007 How about a video camera and a cell phone... ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #23 October 17, 2007 Why? So it can be posted on YouTube, have that post linked in Speaker's Corner to open a discussion about how lawrocket got killed because it took the police 10 minutes to respond to his emergency call? And then have a debate as to whether he would have been better off with a gun. And the have arguments that stricter gun control laws are necessary to prevent these situations. Um, no thanks. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #24 October 17, 2007 Quote "WHITE PRIDE" and "FOURTEEN WORDS." He might be on to something. One of the more "respected" scientists in the world, former head of the Human Genome Project and a Noble Prize winner for his discovery of the structure of DNA, just proclaimed that Africans are not as intelligent as white people. He believes that genes proving this will be found within a decade. http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ned=ca&ie=UTF-8&q=james+watson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #25 October 17, 2007 Quote Why? So it can be posted on YouTube, have that post linked in Speaker's Corner to open a discussion about how lawrocket got killed because it took the police 10 minutes to respond to his emergency call? And then have a debate as to whether he would have been better off with a gun. And the have arguments that stricter gun control laws are necessary to prevent these situations. Um, no thanks. You live a very scary lifestyle. I'm glad i don't live anywhere near you. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites