quade 4 #1 October 16, 2007 I wonder why the NRA hasn't released a tirade yet? JR; comments?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 October 16, 2007 According to the news he signed 750 and vetoed 214. I've only read descriptions of a few. Care to elaborate on the ones of interest to the NRA?"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 October 16, 2007 QuoteI wonder why the NRA hasn't released a tirade yet? JR; comments? For the benefit of those of us who are not Californians, do you care to elaborate?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #4 October 16, 2007 QuoteCare to elaborate on the ones of interest to the NRA? Microstamping. Of course, now that I've actually said the dreaded word I'm sure some folks will get upset, but I find it hilarious that nobody has mentioned anything about it yet because it hasn't really "moved" on the NRA web site. I would have thought the NRA would have jumped on this like a hooker at a convention, but I guess it got past the NRA and pro-gun parrot bloggers, hence, so little discussion here. UPDATE! Just checked the NRA web site. It's now on it! Their web page on the subject is dated Monday the 15th, but I didn't see it there yesterday.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #5 October 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteCare to elaborate on the ones of interest to the NRA? Microstamping. Hadn't even heard of that before. Has anyone even demonstrated a gun that does that? Sounds like a major redesign of every handgun model. Also seems like the easy workaround for criminals would be to stick to revolvers that don't leave shells lying around the scene."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 October 16, 2007 what's to say? It was a sad day. Arnold signed the ultimate in feel good bullshit legislation that would require microstamping by 2010. I wonder if his excuse would be that the bill requires two different providers of technology, but the fact is it is easy to have providers when it's not required to prove efficacy. and of course it doesn't get around the fact that shell casings found on a scene would never meet judicial muster in a trial. Or that it's easy to pick up your brass, or use revolvers, or get a gun prior to, or modify your current one. Particularly humerous is the claim that this technology will add 50 cents to $2 to the cost of a gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #7 October 16, 2007 Why is that funny? (Genuinely curious)Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #8 October 17, 2007 QuoteWhy is that funny? (Genuinely curious) CA legislation has a grand history of lies when it comes to financial impact of legislation. When the helmet law was promoted, Dick Floyd promised tens of millions in savings that never happened. In fact, the fatality rate per accident even increased slightly. It's entertaining from the detached perspective. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #9 October 17, 2007 Oh okay - just looking at the numbers involved it seems reasonable - from what i can make out its a process on the head of the firing pin correct?Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 October 17, 2007 QuoteOh okay - just looking at the numbers involved it seems reasonable - from what i can make out its a process on the head of the firing pin correct? I believe it has to mark in two separate locations. And the information includes the make, type, and serial, which seems like a lot of data to encode in scratches. It doesn't seem to address how to prevent replacement of the firing pin or barrel, be it due to criminal intent or mere maintenance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #11 October 17, 2007 Course - fair enough. ALthough having the make/ type blah blah seems all a bit redundant if you are keeping a DB anyway of these things, why not just have a serial number and everything else held electronically. (sorry - i know its a little off topic)Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
