Al Gore, Nobel Laureate, is Brilliant!

[leewilcox 0]

Hold on there, before you puke and flame, hear me out:

From Wikipedia --
)Born March 31, 1948 (1948-03-31) (age 59)
)He graduated with honors from Harvard in June 1969
with a Bachelor of Arts degree in government
)He enlisted in the United States Army on August 7, 1969.
)Political career (1976–2000);
Jobs: US Rep., US Sen., US Vice-Pres.
)He loses the 2000 US presidential election.

From me:
)He is out of a job. What to do?
)He writes some books, makes some speeches, makes some money.

)He adopts THE issue: Global climate change

He makes speeches, makes money.
He writes books, makes more money.
He makes speeches, makes more money.
He makes a movie, makes more money.
He makes speeches, makes more money.
He gets an Academy Award, makes more money.
He makes speeches, makes more money.
He gets a Nobel Peace Prize, makes more money.
He is really going to make some more speeches, and make a lot more money.

Not bad for an unemployed politician who loves to talk about
anything that draws attention to him and to his accomplishments.

Remember, most (maybe all) scientists agree that the Earth's climate
has ALWAYS been changing, at least for the last 4.6 Billion years or so.
And they assert that the Earth's climate will ALWAYS continue to change.

The issue is global. He can go anywhere on the globe and get
substantial income to talk about a subject that everyone can in some
sense relate to - the weather.

So Al has chosen the 'perfect' cause that will guarantee his personal income.
If the Global climate 'improves' he can, and will, claim the credit for it.
If the Global climate 'deteriorates' he can blame us for not listening to him!

I salute him, Albert Arnold Gore Jr.
the man who "took the initiative in creating the Internet"
and the man who will get well paid to do what he loves to do:
talk, on and on, for the rest of his life!

Beautiful, absolute Genius...

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion" - Democritus

[lawrocket 3]

You've been reading my posts! Al Gore is a brilliant capitalist! He found a market and exploited it.

He is, in fact, to the enviornmental movemer what John D. Rockefeller was to oil. The top dog!

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[leewilcox 0]

I believe my post was original thinking on my part.
I did read the thread; Al Gore and the UN Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
That started me thinking about Gore's career.
What really amazed me was now perfectly positioned he is regarding the
outcome. That impresses me even more than how much he has and will
exploit the market he has positioned himself in. Remarkable.

I did read many posts in the aforementioned thread, including yours.
In which post(s) did you refer to his brilliance?

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion" - Democritus

[lawrocket 3]

Just that he's a brilliant capitalist who has made loads of money on the environmental movement.

My idea isn't original. I do, however, believe that you articulated the thought perfectly. In looking back, I did not.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[leewilcox 0]

Thanks for that. What I find myself wondering is did he reason this all out? Did he realize how either way, he has it covered. Talk about being "in the catbird seat". Wow.

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion" - Democritus

[sv3n 0]

There's one flaw in your "man looking to make money off of Global Warming because he's out of a job" theory.............he didn't lose the 2000 election and then adopt global warming for something to make money off of................the fact is that he started campaigning for the Global Warming cause when he was in college. So unless he saw a psychic that told him "in 30 years you're going to get swindled out of an election you need to do something else after that for money"...........unless you can prove that case, then there's no grounds for your theory. I'm not saying that he may not have made some money off of this to pay for his tours and such, but just the simple fact the he donated the $1.5 million that he got awarded for the peace prize to Global Warming research shows that his primary concern is not the money.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[Amazon 7]

DUDE.. you are never going to convice those on the right... its class warfare for them...even if they have money.. its still all about their lack of class. Hence the right will pander to the dumb as dirt and proud of it crowd even if their family is in the Patrician class of this country... and seek to make supposed points. The Bushies will never really believe in anything but enriching themselves... others enrich themselves and actually give back to humanity.. THAT is the vast difference in the right.. that is fightinig so hard to maintain THEIR status quo.. supported by thier friends who have HUGE vested interests in Oil and coal... but you dont hear about their vast wealth and efforts to accumulate more in any way they can.. like nice little wars that kill off thousands of their fellow countrymen.

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DUDE.. you are never going to convice those on the right... its class warfare for them...even if they have money.. its still all about their lack of class. Hence the right will pander to the dumb as dirt and proud of it crowd even if their family is in the Patrician class of this country... and seek to make supposed points. The Bushies will never really believe in anything but enriching themselves... others enrich themselves and actually give back to humanity.. THAT is the vast difference in the right.. that is fightinig so hard to maintain THEIR status quo.. supported by thier friends who have HUGE vested interests in Oil and coal... but you dont hear about their vast wealth and efforts to accumulate more in any way they can.. like nice little wars that kill off thousands of their fellow countrymen.

And the left will still pander those who are to lazy to actually work for a living and take money from the middle class to support them. At the same time they will allow other our countries defense fall into such a state of disrepair that when it is needed we will have nothing to protect us.
And those on the left will still bitch and whine about what the right does wrong while doing nothing to solve any of it.

[Amazon 7]

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And the left will still pander those who are to lazy to actually work for a living and take money from the middle class to support them.

Prove it....or is this just more Lush Rimjob ....parroting from those of you on the far right.

Personally I know plenty of very socially left people who.. OMG seem to have very good paying jobs and still believe in social responsibility.

The right... I hear a lot of blathering about all those taxes going to the needy.. but not a peep as long as its going to like minded GREEDY.

Hell I bet you even believe this is a christian country..... now what was that little saying that Jesus said about this issue???????
Something about giving it all away to the needy???

[rushmc 23]

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And the left will still pander those who are to lazy to actually work for a living and take money from the middle class to support them.

Prove it....or is this just more Lush Rimjob ....parroting from those of you on the far right.

Personally I know plenty of very socially left people who.. OMG seem to have very good paying jobs and still believe in social responsibility.

The right... I hear a lot of blathering about all those taxes going to the needy.. but not a peep as long as its going to like minded GREEDY.

Hell I bet you even believe this is a christian country..... now what was that little saying that Jesus said about this issue???????
Something about giving it all away to the needy???

PROVE IT??? YOU PROVE IT!!!You are the one making all the outragous claims Oh, what a hoot

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

You only need to read your posts for all the proof we need. 6 years of right wing bullshit..

too bad so sad.

Polly Wanna Cracker???

[rushmc 23]

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You only need to read your posts for all the proof we need. 6 years of right wing bullshit..

too bad so sad.

Polly Wanna Cracker???

I have to thank youkeep it up please

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Royd 0]

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Hell I bet you even believe this is a christian country..... now what was that little saying that Jesus said about this issue???????
Something about giving it all away to the needy???

You first.

[Amazon 7]

I do.. in time and money.. how about you there Bubba???

[leewilcox 0]

Sv3n - Yea, my scarcasm about Al Gore needing a job after he became abruptly unemployed in
2001 might have diluted my argument. But you did not address what I intended to be my main
point, regardless of the money Gore may have wanted or needed, my point is:

So Al Gore has chosen the 'perfect' cause that will guarantee his personal income.
If the Global climate 'improves' he can, and will, claim the credit for it.
If the Global climate 'deteriorates' he can blame us for not listening to him!

Let's address what I think are your 3 points:
A) Al has been campaigning about global warming for decades, but since Al only lost his job
in 2001, his Global warming efforts since his job loss are not for his financial gain.
B) I am not saying he may not have made some money off of this to pay for his tours and such
C) the simple fact the he donated the $1.5 million that he got awarded for the peace prize to
Global Warming research shows that his primary concern is not the money.

Rebuttal:
A) 'not for his financial gain'
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/10/03/al-gore-getting-rich-preading-global-warming-hysteria-media-s-help
excerpt ...
In fact, just two months ago (Aug/2007), ABC News.com estimated soon-to-be-Nobel Laureate Al
Gore's net worth at $100 million, which isn't bad considering that he was supposedly worth
about $1 million when he watched George W. Bush get sworn in as president in January 2001.

Talk about your get-rich-quick schemes, how'd you like to increase your net worth 10,000
percent in less than seven years? ...

B) 'made some money'
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/117/features-gore.html
Al Gore charges a $175,000 speaking fee. Do the math, 10 speaking engagements = $1,750,000
How many speaking engagements since Jan, 2001?

C) 'his primary concern is not the money'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_gore
My wife, Tipper, and I will donate 100 percent of the proceeds of the award to the Alliance
for Climate Protection, a bipartisan non-profit organization that is devoted to changing
public opinion in the U.S. and around the world about the urgency of solving the climate crisis.[83]

Admirable, so this proves your point, but wait, who/what is this organization?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_for_Climate_Protection
The founder and current chairman of the alliance is former US Vice President Al Gore.[1]

So, then, Al will donate the award to ah, er, tada, HIMSELF!

While you weren't looking, Al Gore got around behind you and bit your argument in the a..
As they say in Florida, you been had, Chad.

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion" - Democritus

[sv3n 0]

Not a bad argument, here's a few things that I have a problem with........

A. where's the sources..........the link leads nowhere. "he was supposedly worth about $1 million..."............that's great and all, but where's the evidence that this statement is true.........like his tax return from 2000. The other factor in that would also be, did he only have a million in his personal savings account or did that include all his other investments? Anybody can make allegations, but let's stick to facts.


B. private jet maintenance, private jet pilot, private jet fuel, room and board fees, misc travel expenses, security detail, facility rental, etc..............there's a lot of expenses to list that would go into such a production. Does he make some money off of it........I'm sure he does, but who afterall made the show that he performs. It's his work, without him it wouldn't have got made. So, he is getting paid for his service. Put the real question is where does that money go.................does he donate all or a part of it?.........how much of it does he take home?


C. I'm not sure what you know about non-profit organizations, but you can't just take money out of a business account of a non-profit organization. So he's donating the money to a non-profit organization which is a bipartisan non-profit organization that is devoted to changing
public opinion in the U.S. and around the world about the urgency of solving the climate crisis...................it doesn't matter if he's one of the founders or a chairman the money goes to the organization. He's not the guy that writes the checks, he's just a chairman. If he really wanted the money he would've just deposited it into his account and said thanks. Also, considering that he's been "crusading" for this cause for decades it doesn't really surprise me that you would find his name associated with most if not all the organizations that deal with global warming........specifically one that deals with educating people about it.



In conclusion, I don't think anybody's been......like I said if he was only after the money he would've simply deposited the check in his account.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[leewilcox 0]

You have some points but they seem weak to me. I am not saying money is his only motivation. But I am saying money is one of his primary motives, along with other motives such as fame, family, his place in history,'improving the environment', etc.

Al Gore is a brilliant businessman in the Global Warming Industry. He donated his $1.5 million
Nobel prize to his Alliance that promotes his business interests that he owns and operates.
Its non-profit status is a device. He controls the money and will influence how it benefits him.

I have no problem with that. I would argue that is shrewd business tactics, and he benefits
even more than if he had put it directly in his checking account. He positions himself as
a benevolent donor to the cause.

He made sure he mentioned the bi-partisan attribute of the Alliance in his prize speech.
He intentionally (my opinion) did not say MY organization... He is an exceptionally gifted
speaker. He knows what he is saying. His donation is deceptive because he does not say it is
his organization, so the average person has no idea how he is actually enhancing his personal
wealth and his public image at the same time, by his apparently humanitarian donation.

Your arguments would have a little more weight if he had donated the money to an environmental
organization he has no control over. But, I would argue that directing the prize to anything
in the environment industry still is a direct benefit to his personal fortune. He is the spokesmodel for the environmental cause and he is the leader of the Global Warming Industry. Any monies that flow into that sector will also likely directly benefit him.

Al Gore has many motives for what he does. He appears genuinely sincere in his concerns about the environment on the broad scale. But his personal conduct is not without reproach.

"Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion" - Democritus

[kallend 2,151]

He sure is brighter than our current President.

Not only that, his Nobel has really pissed off the right wingers

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Rookie120 0]

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Not only that, his Nobel has really pissed off the right wingers

And thats all that matters to you isn't it John? How can we piss off the people who don't suck up to our liberal BS.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[kallend 2,151]

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Not only that, his Nobel has really pissed off the right wingers

And thats all that matters to you isn't it John? How can we piss off fascists and neo-cons.

Fixed it for you.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[sv3n 0]

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Al Gore has many motives for what he does. He appears genuinely sincere in his concerns about the environment on the broad scale. But his personal conduct is not without reproach.

You're a smart person, it's been a great conversation and gladly not an argument.

I agree with your above statement........

I'm sure he has lots of motives..........he's trying to play political monopoly right now trying to get the world behind his cause. He's a very smart man.

And yes, he does appear to be genuinely concerned about the environment.........and for being concerned and choosing to educate people he was Awarded the Peace Prize.

As far as his personal conduct..........I don't know anything about that. He was awarded the Peace Prize for educating people and not for the "green" design of his house or for the world's lowest electrical bill. He put the time in to come up with a presentation and then turned that presentation into a movie to educate the planet about something that could greatly change life on this planet if it's not yielded to. He put in the work, that's what he's getting paid for. He's educating people, that's what he got the prize for.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[NCclimber 0]

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Not only that, his Nobel has really pissed off the right wingers

And thats all that matters to you isn't it John? How can we piss off fascists and neo-cons.

Fixed it for you.

I see. You consider anyone who leans right to be a fascist and/or a neo-con.

Funny how those who frequently resort to (bullshit) stereotypes don't seem to get what that says about them.

[Amazon 7]

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I see. You consider anyone who leans right to be a fascist and/or a neo-con.

Like this kind of leaning right???

Just dont fall over there Bubba.

[NCclimber 0]

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I see. You consider anyone who leans right to be a fascist and/or a neo-con.

Like this kind of leaning right???

Just dont fall over there Bubba.

They're all standing straight up, but appear to be leaning hard to the right.

It explains so much.