Amazon 7 #151 October 16, 2007 QuoteHow about people in New Orleans? If a Cat 5 Hurricane rolls over the St Augustine/Daytona Beach Area... do you think you deserve the same kind of help??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #152 October 16, 2007 Quote >In any event, what is the percent of all militay spending on the budget? 51%* estimated for 2008. How much extra have you sent in to cover your support of the war? (* - ignoring trust fund outlays. See here for details.) Yep, do check that source for details, because the authors were shoveling a lot of bullshit to come up with the 51%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #153 October 16, 2007 QuoteWell, our wonderful President Bush and his cohorts CUT taxes and RAISED spending. Pretty cool fiscal policy, eh? That's the same tax cut that helped create record income tax receipts, correct?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #154 October 16, 2007 How about people in New Orleans? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteIf a Cat 5 Hurricane rolls over the St Augustine/Daytona Beach Area... do you think you deserve the same kind of help??? Sorry, I just don't fit the demographic, so I'll just have to grab the bull by the horns and do what has to be done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #155 October 16, 2007 QuoteQuote >In any event, what is the percent of all militay spending on the budget? 51%* estimated for 2008. How much extra have you sent in to cover your support of the war? (* - ignoring trust fund outlays. See here for details.) Yep, do check that source for details, because the authors were shoveling a lot of bullshit to come up with the 51%. ALOT OF BS!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #156 October 16, 2007 Quote Quote >In any event, what is the percent of all militay spending on the budget? 51%* estimated for 2008. How much extra have you sent in to cover your support of the war? (* - ignoring trust fund outlays. See here for details.) Yep, do check that source for details, because the authors were shoveling a lot of bullshit to come up with the 51%. This shit is just too funny. Quote “Past military” represents veterans’ benefits plus 80% of the interest on the debt.* How rich. Quote We use 80% because we believe if there had been no military spending most (if not all) of the national debt would have been eliminated. Did these guys sleep through the Cold War? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #157 October 16, 2007 Did these guys sleep through the Cold War?Hey I did, I never did anything at all and now I get a HUGE check for my disabilities every month.It is almost enough to buy breakfast and lunch every day of the month. If you eat from the dollar menu. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #158 October 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteWell, our wonderful President Bush and his cohorts CUT taxes and RAISED spending. Pretty cool fiscal policy, eh? That's the same tax cut that helped create record income tax receipts, correct? Depends on your accounting method. After correcting for inflation and population growth, NO, we are behind in cumulative revenues. And, of course, the value of the $US has decreased against other currencies too, on account of the Reagan/Bush debt.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #159 October 16, 2007 Quote Glad to be of service. The fact is that any tax at all is just the government's idea of a handy way to raise money to pay for running the country. I assume that even you agree that the government needs money to operate and that money doesn't grow on trees. Apparently your opinion is that inheritance taxes are somehow a worse way to do it than income or capital gains taxes. I never said one way or the other about which form of taxation is worse. This is a thread about the inheritance tax, so that's what I've stuck to talking about. QuoteMy opinion is just the opposite - I think working for your money or investing shrewdly to get a capital return on it is rather more worthy than having money (or other assets) handed to you on a platter. Worthy of what? Not getting taxed?Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #160 October 16, 2007 QuoteAnd, of course, the value of the $US has decreased against other currencies too, on account of the Reagan/Bush debt. For the first time in my life a Canadian Dollar is worth more that an American Dollar... A BIG thank you goes out to the NEO CONS.. well done in a new milestone in your push to destroy America before you THINK your asses will be Raptured out so you dont have to pay the bills. ( this is known as sarcasm... just in case you NOE CONS have difficulty realizing this) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #161 October 16, 2007 QuoteThe rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071012/bs_nm/irs_income_dc Uh, hello!!!! They were practiced by Regan, Bush and Bush in various degrees. But Reaganomics means to cut taxes and increase military spending, cut welfare spending. Other than GHW Bush's tax increase, all 3 have acted accordingly. The debt was 1 Trillion when Reagan took office, now it's 8.9 trillion. So what's in a number? Well, to compare the US Dollar to the Canadian Dollar: 1993 1 USD = 1.29 Canadian 2001 1 USD = 1.55 Canadian NOW 1 Canadian = 1.03 USD http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic That's the damage done. Forever people have been saying it's just a number, well, so is the exchange rate. The Republicans have fiscally ruined this country behind the guise of fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #162 October 16, 2007 >>>>>>>If you took all the money in the world and even distributed it, Within just a few years we would be right back where we started with a small percentage having the vast majority of the money. Difference is that in some countries they actually don't require that you must be one of the people who is good with money to be given medical care other than emergecy care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #163 October 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote The rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer Wow!! You mean that some people are actually smarter than others?? I never would have guessed. Some people actually make good decisions that pay off while others make poor decisions?? I am Shocked. Explain then how executives can destroy a company and still earn huge bonuses, and then parachute out just after selling their stock options for millions. It seems that some can make poor, costly decisions and still profit nicely. Have a look at Arbusto Energy. Bush's daddy's buddy invested $1 million in that shithole when the company was worth $400,000. Nice, eh? Then in 1990 Bush sold his shares in the company (now Harken Energy) and a week later the company reported a loss of $23 million. And all the United Airlines and I think US Air employees who had the same Enron deal happen to them, just not the same publicity. Many, many smart and responsible people hve little, many Peris Hiltons exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #164 October 16, 2007 >>>>>>Good for them. And those 2 billionaires should be allowed to do whatever they want with their money. They should not be required to pay incredible amounts of taxes to support the lazy deadbeats and dead-end government programs. Yea, those AIDS babies are just a bunch of freeloaders. And those who contract TB and the drones of others who dare get old..... Nice philosophy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #165 October 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteWell, our wonderful President Bush and his cohorts CUT taxes and RAISED spending. Pretty cool fiscal policy, eh? That's the same tax cut that helped create record income tax receipts, correct? Record tax receipts? That's like celebrating not breaking your right arm in a swoop, yet you have all 3 other limbs broken as well as a busted spleen and several vertebrae. The debt has gone from 1T in 198o to 8.9 today. As well, the dollar has fallen below the Canadian dollar, it rose from 1.29 to 1.55 under CLinton just as the deficit was balanced. Record tax receipts? Who cares when there is still a deficit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #166 October 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote >In any event, what is the percent of all militay spending on the budget? 51%* estimated for 2008. How much extra have you sent in to cover your support of the war? (* - ignoring trust fund outlays. See here for details.) Yep, do check that source for details, because the authors were shoveling a lot of bullshit to come up with the 51%. ALOT OF BS!! How about this BS? The US spends virtually dollar for dollar with the entire rest of the world on defense, when there is no one out to get us. Who has waged war? A couple assorted Arabic nations that can't even get 1 acft off the ground? They have no Navy and unless we drop our gaurd on on ports, they have no way of reasonably attacking us. We spend almost as much as the rest of the world combined on the military, about a 45 / 55 split. The number 2 is GB and spends 1/8th as much as we do. Would you like the source? Are you going to deny the numbers or deny the need? Or both? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #167 October 16, 2007 QuoteQuoteAnd, of course, the value of the $US has decreased against other currencies too, on account of the Reagan/Bush debt. For the first time in my life a Canadian Dollar is worth more that an American Dollar... A BIG thank you goes out to the NEO CONS.. well done in a new milestone in your push to destroy America before you THINK your asses will be Raptured out so you dont have to pay the bills. ( this is known as sarcasm... just in case you NOE CONS have difficulty realizing this) Not actually true, but essentually true. The dollar dropped below the Canadian dollar in 1972 and then from 1952 to 1960. Not knowing how old you are, I think you were alive in 1972. But I agree that generally we have kicked the shit out of the Canadian Dollar, especially when CLinton left office in 2001 where 1 USD = 1.55 Canadian. http://eh.net/hmit/exchangerates/answer?yBegin=1916&yEnd=2005&nation%5B%5D=Canada Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #168 October 16, 2007 Quote>>>>>>Good for them. And those 2 billionaires should be allowed to do whatever they want with their money. They should not be required to pay incredible amounts of taxes to support the lazy deadbeats and dead-end government programs. Yea, those AIDS babies are just a bunch of freeloaders. And those who contract TB and the drones of others who dare get old..... Nice philosophy. I think so. I take care of myself and my family and I don't expect handouts. There are already govenrnment programs in place for the aids babies. My point is that there should be no inheritance tax. That money has already been taxed once. Where did I say we shouldn't think about the children?The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #169 October 16, 2007 >>>>>>>In any event, what is the percent of all militay spending on the budget? Once you find that come whining back about the war costs There are 2 catagories: 1) Budgeted military expenditures 2) War costs They are seperate expenses and Congress budgets them seperately. Congress and Bush just put through a 150B war gift. We spend almost dollar for dollar what the rest of the world does in military costs, figure the war costs in and I'm sure we far exceed 50% of the total contemporary military spending......... but that welfare mother getting $900 per month to raise 4 boys that your party can draft for a war when they come of age is the entity that you hate. Nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #170 October 16, 2007 >>>>>As a scientist you should know the perils of extrapolating from a sample set of two. That sample size is considerable considering there are only a handful of Billionaires in the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #171 October 16, 2007 QuoteDifference is that in some countries they actually don't require that you must be one of the people who is good with money to be given medical care other than emergecy care. Darwin is a Bitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #172 October 16, 2007 >ALOT OF BS!! Don't like those numbers? I'll give you some simpler ones: Cost of Iraq war so far: $450 billion Estimated total cost: $1 to $1.4 trillion Refund everyone would get if you took the money spent so far and refunded it to each taxpayer equally: $3460 2007 deficit: $270 billion 2007 deficit without the war: $98 billion (And before anyone starts in with the "LIBAERL LEIS" you might want to refer to the link below) http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #173 October 16, 2007 Lucky's back and ready to rumble!!!I see in your profile, you list your nickname as: Nappy-Headed Ho and your last SC post, six months ago, was in a Don Imus thread. Yesterday, it's announced Imus is going back on the air. Today, you return. Coincidence? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #174 October 16, 2007 >Coincidence? Why - it can't be, but it must be! Lucky is Don Imus! Welcome back, Don. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #175 October 16, 2007 Quote>>>>>As a scientist you should know the perils of extrapolating from a sample set of two. That sample size is considerable considering there are only a handful of Billionaires in the US. About 500 or so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
