Al Gore and the UN Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

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No. I AGREE with Al Gore's message. I disagree with his treachery.

You know, I saw snippets of an interview with a certain Senator from Idaho who has based his career on a family values ticket. Guess what happened to him when it was discovered that while his message is "family values" he does not exactly practice what he preaches - his supporters left in droves.

Take a look at this from TMZ.com about celebs who claim to be green but fly private jets. http://www.tmz.com/2006/10/18/celebs-who-claim-theyre-green-but-guzzle-gas This article from the London Times from October, 2006 reported on the TMZ story. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article616799.ece

In January, 2007, the Guardian published a story about which stars leave the largest carbon footprint. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/jan/24/travelsenvironmentalimpact.carbonfootprints Apparently, Tom Cruise's nickname in the environmental world is "emissions impossible" for hsi private jet over-usage.

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Phillip Green
He's the billionaire who owns 2,500 stores including Topshop, Miss Selfridge and Bhs. He avoids paying millions of pounds in tax by living in Monaco, but dumps thousands of kilos of carbon on the rest of us from his cherished Gulfstream jet as he commutes back and forth to his London office.

So, should Al Gore be treated any differently from these people? Why is Al Gore not subject to the same heat or derision as George Clooney or John Travolta? Because the emperor has no clothes?

Just how much does Gore use a private jet? Is it his, or did someone offer him a ride? Is it his preferred form of transport, or something he used a couple of times in order to meet an inflexible schedule? You go on and on about it as if he goes to the grocery store in a private jet.

He has a large house. Most wealthy people have large houses, often more than one. Is Gore's house WORSE than other comparable houses in energy usage?

His message is to REDUCE carbon emissions. He hasn't told anyone to cease all use of fossil fuels. Has he reduced his carbon emissions, either directly or indirectly? If so, he's done what he preaches. Could he do better? Probably, and so could all the rest of us.

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I would say that the Conergy booth does a far more effective job selling their product. I would nto think that Conergy is in the business of giving it away. I would not think that Conergy is in the business of sending people elsewhere for solar panels.

Indeed, I would think that helping the environment is an ancillary to their business of making money by selling solar power.

Here are some Gore quotes frm an Inconvenient Truth:

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We have here a scales that balances two different things. On one side, we have *gold* bars! Mmmmmm, don't they look good? I'd just like to have some of those gold bars. Mmmmm. On the other side of the scales... um... THE ENTIRE PLANET! Hmmmm...

Then, as far as environmentalism being a money maker, "The other reason is that, if we do the *right* thing, then we're gonna create a lot of wealth, and we're gonna create a lot of jobs, because doing the right thing moves us forward."

So we DO have a tacit admission from Gore that it's about making money.

Now, Conergy is about selling solar products. Gore is about selling environmentalism.

Well, bill. The more I think about it the more I see your point. However, I will stay put in my belief that Al Gore, if he wants to help the environment, should be spreading his message in a way that causes minimal damage to the environment.

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Could he do better? Probably, and so could all the rest of us.

Okay, now you have put my message in concise words. He could do better. Which is why I wrote MANY TIMES that I do not exxpect him to live the luddite life. Just that he walk the walk a a little more.

So we are in agreement.

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Dude, your point is irrelevant. Regardless of how much Mr. Gore spends on utilities for his house compared to other mansions doesn't matter.

His example, regardless of awareness, is akin to me driving a Chevy Tahoe, pulling up to next to you in a Honda Civic, telling you to use fewer resources.

He doesn't believe in his own cause. His net worth is somewhere north of $100M. He's in this for the business. He's in it for the money.

If his message causes a root change in the mindset of people to do a little bit to save here and there, then that's fine.

To mark Mr. Gore as worthy of the Peace Prize as a result, connects two dots that are not on the same plane.

You and I are having this discussion because of Gore. His work made you and I and millions of people aware of global warming. That's worthy of recognition.

When you are worth $100M, you are no longer doing whatever you do for the money. You already have the money. People who are in the same class as Gore are driven by something else besides money. In Gores case....its save the world. Money is a by prodct of the motion that has been set forth by the hard work invested.

And yes, it does matter how much Gore spends on utilities compared to other mansions. You cannot make comparrions of above average households to average households. That's not a valid comparison...but people in this post are continuing to twist it to the advantage of their own argument. You cannot compare apples to oranges, just like you cannot compare above average to average.

Gore has you snowed. If you truly think he is Captain Planet here to save the world you have bought the PR hook, line, and sinker. He is doing it for the money and attention. People like him can't have enough money or adoration. He is not Captain Planet but he is a hell of a business man.

Some business men use their business skills for good...others dont. Dont be intimidated success brother.....especially when the success brings about positive awareness.

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>However, I will stay put in my belief that Al Gore, if he wants to help
>the environment, should be spreading his message in a way that causes
>minimal damage to the environment.

I agree that there should be a tradeoff there. Living in a hut and never flying anywhere would not have allowed him to spread his message at all; using a private jet to get around to his talks goes too far in the other direction.