Al Gore and the UN Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

[lawrocket 3]

Quote

its hilarious...if not downright sad coming from a bunch of people who waste fuel and have a large carbon footprint every weekend.. That right there is some hypocritical shit.

It's not hypocritical if we don't say there is something tremedously wrong with it. when you've got an environmental activist who leaves the same carbon footprint every day as a dropzone, then there is a problem.

The hypocrisy is not in leaving a carbon footprint. That is what it is. The hypocrisy is in leaving a huge carbon footprint while making a career out of saying how bad it is.

Hypocrisy is doing something against your spoken words. It's why Republicans are hypocrites, too. Is it wrong that Jesse Jackson had a kid out of wedlock? According to him it is.

Is gay sex in an airport bathroom a bad thing? I dont' find it inherently evil, but a guy who got caught trolling with it has said it is.

That's the point. SO you've got gay Republicans. Big deal. Unless they are anti-gay Christians. Then it IS a big deal.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[micro 0]

Quote

Quote

There it is folks, the voice of reason, logic and erudition. When faced with the facts of blatant hypocricy of someone on the left, the atmospherically tall firery red-head just can't say, "yep, that's right, he's a bloody hypocrite."

I just love watching all this class jealousy.. its all ya got... and its hilarious...if not downright sad coming from a bunch of people who waste fuel and have a large carbon footprint every weekend.. That right there is some hypocritical shit.

More falacious argumentation from you, red. Diversion and misdirection. This has nothing to do w/ class jealousy at all. To say that it does only tells me that you have NO rebuttal at all.

And since you're replying to MY comment, let me remind you that I DO NOT skydive anymore so I do not leave a large carbon footprint every weekend. And, let me also remind you that you've also neglected to comment on my reply to your previous question on whether I ride a bike to work.

My dear, I put my money where my mouth is. And I am no bed wetting liberal.

So there.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[kallend 2,118]

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Amazon 7]

Quote

And since you're replying to MY comment, let me remind you that I DO NOT skydive anymore so I do not leave a large carbon footprint every weekend.

Oh yeah I forgot.. most of the right wingers in speakers corner that continually run their mouths dont actually skydive..

My Bad.



But since I have never met any right wingers yet who were truely green I guess its still hypocritical to run offf at the mouth about how someone else uses fossil fuels.

[micro 0]

Quote

Quote

And since you're replying to MY comment, let me remind you that I DO NOT skydive anymore so I do not leave a large carbon footprint every weekend.

Oh yeah I forgot.. most of the right wingers in speakers corner that continually run their mouths dont actually skydive..

My Bad.



But since I have never met any right wingers yet who were truely green I guess its still hypocritical to run offf at the mouth about how someone else uses fossil fuels.

Your continued inability to argue any inteligible point is just bewildering to me. All you do is spew rhetoric and hot wind, which is suprising, considering how cold it must be in the rarified air that you breathe. Not a thing has changed in the time I've been away. Some people continue to argue with logic and sound reasoning while others just... well, prove their intelligence quotient by the rhetoric they type.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[rushmc 23]

Quote

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

Except it will make absoultly no difference. And you can not show any science to that says differently

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[micro 0]

Quote

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

hmm... isn't this more of the same "do as I say not as I do" crap that so many liberals pull? why is it excusable for them but not for conservatives when they try it? goose and ganders and all of that... i'm not arguing for net effect, i'm arguing for principle.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[kallend 2,118]

Quote

Quote

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

hmm... isn't this more of the same "do as I say not as I do" crap that so many liberals pull? why is it excusable for them but not for conservatives when they try it? goose and ganders and all of that... i'm not arguing for net effect, i'm arguing for principle.

So you expect him to row across the Atlantic if he has a speaking engagement in Italy or Scotland?

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[micro 0]

Quote

Quote

Quote

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

hmm... isn't this more of the same "do as I say not as I do" crap that so many liberals pull? why is it excusable for them but not for conservatives when they try it? goose and ganders and all of that... i'm not arguing for net effect, i'm arguing for principle.

So you expect him to row across the Atlantic if he has a speaking engagement in Italy or Scotland?

Good lord John, haven't we covered this already? What a specious comeback!

How about commercial flight. But if that is too "everyday man" for him, he could easily charter a much more "green" corporate jet than the G-II and YOU of all people could figure that out.

Yawn... I tire of this...

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[pop 0]

Quote

Quote

Gore got more than just the popular vote.

Proof?

Talk to all the black voters that were turned down at the booths.

7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer

[rushmc 23]

Quote

Quote

Quote

Gore got more than just the popular vote.

Proof?

Talk to all the black voters that were turned down at the booths.

Talk about a talking point

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Royd 0]

Quote

I just love watching all this class jealousy.. its all ya got... and its hilarious...if not downright sad coming from a bunch of people who waste fuel and have a large carbon footprint every weekend.. That right there is some hypocritical shit.

Sort of like Barney Frank getting a pass because he doesn't have a moral problem with it.

[Royd 0]

Quote

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

He can sit behind his computer screen with a video cam and reach millions on Youtube. After all, he invented the damned internet.

[micro 0]

Quote

Quote

If Al Gore persuades 10 million people to reduce their CO2 emissions by just 1% he has more than offset the use of any jet fuel it required to get him to his lectures.

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

He can sit behind his computer screen with a video cam and reach millions on Youtube. After all, he invented the damned internet.

That's the POST OF THE THREAD right there folks!

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[skydyvr 0]

Quote

Your continued inability to argue any inteligible point is just bewildering to me. All you do is spew rhetoric and hot wind, which is suprising, considering how cold it must be in the rarified air that you breathe. Not a thing has changed in the time I've been away. Some people continue to argue with logic and sound reasoning while others just... well, prove their intelligence quotient by the rhetoric they type.

Dude, I leave here for months at a time and see the same hot-air contrail coming from the same source every time. I got over being "bewildered" a long time ago. It's simply stupid trolling.

No one who PROUDLY wastes gas with dual 350's in a boat an a smelly big-assed truck could be as far left as the troller comes across as being.

Amazon's pointless stream-of-conciousness musings became real yawn material a couple years ago.

. . =(_8^(1)

[skydyvr 0]

Quote

But since I have never met any right wingers yet who were truely green I guess its still hypocritical to run offf at the mouth about how someone else uses fossil fuels.

Well, we've never met, and I hope we never do, but in terms of Internet forums you HAVE met a right-winger (by your screwball definition) who is "truly green".

. . =(_8^(1)

[Amazon 7]

More play the player PA's from you.. how common and usual.. I expect it from you.

Do you ever have anything of substance or will the sniping and back biting you do....... do it for you???

[skydyvr 0]

Quote

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

Excellent statement. I'm sure you'll agree that we can most effectively bring about world peace by nuking all nations who oppose the US.

. . =(_8^(1)

[skydyvr 0]

Quote

Do you ever have anything of substance . . .

That's a hilarious statement coming from you.

. . =(_8^(1)

[sv3n 0]

Quote

Quote

Quote

Gore got more than just the popular vote.

Proof?

Talk to all the black voters that were turned down at the booths.

Last I heard it was around 90,000 people that were turned away and the list was 15% accurate.........that's about 76,500 voters that were turned away. If bush won by about 550 votes.......that seems like a reason for a recount, which is required by the state of florida. But it was stopped by the supreme court.........the paperwork to the supreme court to stop the recount was filed by who, Katherin Harris.........the person in charge of the elections in florida.........her other job, chairman of the George W. Bush for President Campaign. Anybody see a conflict of interest or questionable outcome here?

Also, there was an inquiry into the election process in florida.........these were the results:

Quote

CHAPTER 1: VOTING SYSTEM CONTROLS AND FAILURES

Voter Disenfranchisement

Findings

During Florida’s 2000 presidential election, restrictive statutory provisions, wide-ranging errors, and inadequate resources in the Florida election process denied countless Floridians of their right to vote.

This disenfranchisement of Florida voters fell most harshly on the shoulders of African Americans. Statewide, based on county-level statistical estimates, African American voters were nearly 10 times more likely than white voters to have their ballots rejected in the November 2000 election.[5]

Poorer counties, particularly those with large minority populations, were more likely to use voting systems with higher spoilage rates than more affluent counties with significant white populations. For example, in Gadsden County, the only county in the state with an African American majority, approximately one in eight voters was disenfranchised. In Leon County, on the other hand, which is home to the prosperous state capital and two state universities, fewer than two votes in 1,000 were not counted. In Florida, of the 100 precincts with the highest numbers of disqualified ballots, 83 of them are majority-black precincts.

Even in counties where the same voting technology was used, blacks were far more likely to have their votes rejected than whites.

The recently enacted election reform law mandates that a county must use an electronic or electromechanical precinct-count tabulation voting system and that as of September 2, 2002, a voting system that uses a device for the punching of ballots by the voter may not be used in Florida.

While technology improvements and the adoption of state-of-the-art voting systems statewide should reduce overall ballot spoilage rates and lessen the disparity between the rate that African Americans’ and white voters’ ballots are rejected, these enhancements will not, standing alone, eliminate the racial disparity in ballot rejection rates.

The allocation of adequate financial resources and enhanced, effective training of poll workers, other election workers, educating voters, and accountability standards for state and local officials, as well as technological improvements in voting systems, should reduce the rate at which ballots are spoiled and should lessen the disparity in vote spoilage rates between whites and blacks.

The Voting Rights Act of 1965, as amended, prohibits intentional discrimination and forbids practices or procedures that (when considering the “totality of the circumstances”) result in people of color being denied equal access to the political process.

Under the Voting Rights Act of 1965, as amended, jurisdictions covered under section 5 of the act cannot make voting changes unless and until they obtain approval (preclearance) either from the federal district court in Washington, D.C., or from the U.S. attorney general. Five Florida counties are subject to section 5 requirements: Collier, Hardee, Hendry, Hillsborough, and Monroe.

the link to the report: http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch9.htm


Also in Florida 49,442 African-American voters registered Republican and 792,168 African-American voters registered Democratic.

Do a little math and you can easily see that if all the votes were actually counted that Gore won and the votes should've been recounted til they got it right or they should have fixed the problems and started the voting process all over again.

...and you're in violation of your face!

[Gawain 0]

Quote

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

The journey is, in fact, probably more important than the destination.

Mr. Gore does not justify his message by not being an example of conservation.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[kallend 2,118]

Quote

Quote

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

The journey is, in fact, probably more important than the destination.

Mr. Gore does not justify his message by not being an example of conservation.

I just detect a whole lot of sour grapes from the right.

...

The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[micro 0]

Quote

Quote

Quote

It is the OUTCOME that is important, not how you get there.

The journey is, in fact, probably more important than the destination.

Mr. Gore does not justify his message by not being an example of conservation.

I just detect a whole lot of sour grapes from the right.

And I detect a complete absence of logical rebuttals from leftist professors. Just typical one liners.

I miss Lee.
And JP.
And Chris. And...

[billvon 3,090]

Jeanie, Michael - cut it out.

[Andy9o8 2]

Here's a list of all the Nobel Peace Prize recipients from 1901 - present. There are a couple of dubious awards in there, but not many. All in all, it looks like Gore is in pretty good company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize