Gawain 0 #1 October 12, 2007 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_eu/nobel_peace So, if I spew a bunch of disputed information about the environment, that will earn me a peace prize? "Awareness" does not nurture peace in my view. Being a beacon or symbol for freedom and democracy would seem to be a more worthy cause for "peace" recognition. Congratulations. For Mr. Gore, he's on a roll apparently. The UN will stroke itself silly over this too. The halls of its offices will bear the wafts of its own gas for weeks...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sv3n 0 #2 October 12, 2007 Quotehttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_re_eu/nobel_peace So, if I spew a bunch of disputed information about the environment, that will earn me a peace prize? "Awareness" does not nurture peace in my view. Being a beacon or symbol for freedom and democracy would seem to be a more worthy cause for "peace" recognition. Congratulations. For Mr. Gore, he's on a roll apparently. The UN will stroke itself silly over this too. The halls of its offices will bear the wafts of its own gas for weeks... The UN says that climate change is a threat to peace (here's the article....http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/17/news/climate.php), so by stopping it you're promoting world peace.............if you're one of the major voices that has been doing that for decades does that qualify you for a peace prize? Of course, since you're promoting peace for the planet through environmental awareness. The rest of the world is on the GW wagon.........we're one of the only major countries not on it. And if GW turns out to be real, as a lot of scientists believe, getting the world to stop destroying itself is something that's worthy of a peace prize. Afterall, without a planet there's no life. PS - being a beacon or symbol for freedom and democracy would also be a worthy cause (also this is for the Peace Prize, not the democracy and freedom prize).......but let's say 3/4 of the country doesn't want to do something and the administration still does it, is that a great example of democracy?...and you're in violation of your face! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #3 October 12, 2007 QuoteThe rest of the world is on the GW wagon.........we're one of the only major countries not on it. There's us... and China... and India... and Russia... and Australia...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #4 October 12, 2007 QuoteThe UN says that climate change is a threat to peace (here's the article....http://www.iht.com/.../17/news/climate.php), so by stopping it you're promoting world peace.............I think that GWB should be considered. He was accused of causing Katrina, and so far, over the last two years, he's prevented a hurricane from hitting the US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #5 October 12, 2007 Quote I think that GWB should be considered. He was accused of causing Katrina, and so far, over the last two years, he's prevented a hurricane from hitting the US. Excellent point! The climate "experts" have predicted above average activity for the last two hurricane seasons, both of which have been relatively tame. Hurray for Bush! Hurray for Bush! He saved us from the hurricanes!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #6 October 12, 2007 Y'all do realize that it's not "UN Awarded," yes? It's awarded by the Norwegians; the other Nobel prizes are awarded by the Swedes. The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is sharing the award with Gore. A number of Nobel peace prizes have been contententious. Two of the most prominent ones are Maathai's a couple years ago (also environmental-related) and Henry Kissinger's. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #7 October 12, 2007 Quote The rest of the world is on the GW wagon.........we're one of the only major countries not on it. I though the U.S. was the only major country. All others being minor. Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #8 October 12, 2007 QuoteQuote The rest of the world is on the GW wagon.........we're one of the only major countries not on it. I though the U.S. was the only major country. All others being minor. We recently lost the top position for CO2 emissions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 October 12, 2007 Quote Y'all do realize that it's not "UN Awarded," yes? It's awarded by the Norwegians; the other Nobel prizes are awarded by the Swedes. You are kidding, aren't you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #10 October 12, 2007 How funny! The man voted in as president wins the nobel peace prize. The only award the man cheating the president out of presidency can win is a "Peace of Turd" prize. How funny.....7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 October 12, 2007 QuoteHow funny! The man voted in as president wins the nobel peace prize. The only award the man cheating the president out of presidency can win is a "Peace of Turd" prize. How funny..... Nice little jab, if inaccurate. Electoral college...we has it.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #12 October 12, 2007 Let's see... a liberal, GWB opposing ex-presidential candidate and the UN, famous for their anti-war stance jointly receiving a presigious peace prize for publicising a phenomenon that isn't proven to exist. I can see how that might grate a person if they happened to be a republican, pro-war, anti-UN, global warming denier. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #13 October 12, 2007 Quote Quote Y'all do realize that it's not "UN Awarded," yes? It's awarded by the Norwegians; the other Nobel prizes are awarded by the Swedes. You are kidding, aren't you? Uh, no ... the Nobel Foundation (http://nobelprize.org/) makes the awards. It's a privately run and privately funded organization. Very much the model of a free market organization. "In his last will and testament, Alfred Nobel specifically designated the institutions responsible for the prizes he wished to be established: "The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences for the Nobel Prize in Physics and Chemistry, "Karolinska Institute for the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, "the Swedish Academy for the Nobel Prize in Literature, and "a Committee of five persons to be elected by the Norwegian Parliament (Storting) for the Nobel Peace Prize." The King of Sweden presents the non-Peace prize medals and certificate in a ceremony in Stockholm. The King of Norway presents the Peace prize medal and certificate in Oslo. Prize recipients give the speeches. Nothing about the United Nations any where ... VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #14 October 12, 2007 QuoteThe man voted in as president wins the nobel peace prize. No kidding. The Yankees were screwed in the 2004 ALCS, too. The Yankees scored 45 runs in that 7 game series, and Boston scored only 41. Yet, Boston was allowed to advance and ended up winning the world series. That's fucked up. Just because Boston won 4 games to NY's 3 shouldn't mean that they should advance! THE YANKEES SCORED MORE RUNS THAN THE BOSOX, DAMMIT! How fucked up are those rules? Just because Bush won 30 games as opposed to Gore's 20 plus D.C. should not mean that Bush wins. Gore scored more individual votes (kinda like the Yankees scored more runs). Wouldn't you view the Yankees as whiny losers if they complained about getting more runs when it's a best of seven series? Why, then, are Gore supporters not viewed as whiny losers when it's a best-of-537 series? And Bush got 271 of those. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #15 October 12, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe man voted in as president wins the nobel peace prize. No kidding. The Yankees were screwed in the 2004 ALCS, too. The Yankees scored 45 runs in that 7 game series, and Boston scored only 41. Yet, Boston was allowed to advance and ended up winning the world series. That's fucked up. Just because Boston won 4 games to NY's 3 shouldn't mean that they should advance! THE YANKEES SCORED MORE RUNS THAN THE BOSOX, DAMMIT! How fucked up are those rules? Just because Bush won 30 games as opposed to Gore's 20 plus D.C. should not mean that Bush wins. Gore scored more individual votes (kinda like the Yankees scored more runs). Wouldn't you view the Yankees as whiny losers if they complained about getting more runs when it's a best of seven series? Why, then, are Gore supporters not viewed as whiny losers when it's a best-of-537 series? And Bush got 271 of those. Great analogy. Leave it to the game of baseball and sound logic to clear that us for us.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #16 October 12, 2007 Friends don't let liberals do math. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #17 October 12, 2007 >We recently lost the top position for CO2 emissions. You know, that's still incorrect no ,matter how many times you post it. I mean, don't fear; within a decade you'll have someone else to blame. But for now we are still #1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 October 12, 2007 My issue is not that he receives a Peace Prize for his public position on greenhouse gases. My issue is that he is, himself, a HUGE EMITTER of greenhouse gases! It's like giving the Peace Prize to Sergeant York for being a concientious objector opposed to killing and war. Or giving it to Marion Barry for anti-drug policies. Or Joseph Hazelton for his role in reviving the environmental movement. Maybe if Gore walked the walk I'd be a little more understanding of this. But it strikes of pure shite. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,118 #19 October 12, 2007 Quote Friends don't let liberals do math. Hi Randall: Wanna have a math contest with me or Billvon?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #20 October 12, 2007 Quote Let's see... a liberal, GWB opposing ex-presidential candidate and the UN, famous for their anti-war stance jointly receiving a presigious peace prize for publicising a phenomenon that isn't proven to exist. I can see how that might grate a person if they happened to be a republican, pro-war, anti-UN, global warming denier. All of the worlds media has a liberal bias except Fox News they are fair I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #21 October 12, 2007 >It's like giving the Peace Prize to Sergeant York for being a concientious >objector opposed to killing and war. More like giving the Peace Prize to Norman Borlaug for helping end hunger even though he was kinda fat. I mean, sure, he probably saved over a billion people from starvation through his work on intensive agriculture. But he ATE A LOT! What a fucking hypocrite! They should have given the prize to someone skinny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #22 October 12, 2007 Quote >We recently lost the top position for CO2 emissions. You know, that's still incorrect no ,matter how many times you post it. I mean, don't fear; within a decade you'll have someone else to blame. But for now we are still #1. I'm sorry this recent development hurts the whole blame America first campaign. It was widely reported last June. I don't recall anyone saying it was untrue... or even misleading. Perhaps the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency is actually a shill for Exxon??? Speaking of deniers.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 October 12, 2007 Quote>It's like giving the Peace Prize to Sergeant York for being a concientious >objector opposed to killing and war. More like giving the Peace Prize to Norman Borlaug for helping end hunger even though he was kinda fat. I mean, sure, he probably saved over a billion people from starvation through his work on intensive agriculture. But he ATE A LOT! What a fucking hypocrite! They should have given the prize to someone skinny. Bull. Showing people how to better grow more food while being fat != telling people to cut their emissions while himself producing a great amount of emissions.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #24 October 12, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Y'all do realize that it's not "UN Awarded," yes? It's awarded by the Norwegians; the other Nobel prizes are awarded by the Swedes. You are kidding, aren't you? Uh, no ... the Nobel Foundation (http://nobelprize.org/) makes the awards. It's a privately run and privately funded organization. Very much the model of a free market organization. Uh,no...you're still mising my point. Re-read the title of the thread. It doesn't say what you think it says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #25 October 12, 2007 Showing people how to reduce emissions while emitting a lot yourself is very much like showing people how to reduce hunger while eating a lot yourself. If you think one is great and one is a bunch of crap, you may be a bit more partisan than you think you are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
