US 'must break Iran and Syria regimes' (!?)

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You noticed that the Syrians weren't crying foul over the destruction of their nuclear facility. Hmmm.....

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What destroyed nuclear facility? The Der Al-Hadjar 30-kw research reactor near Damascus (built with assistance of Belgium, Germany, Russia, China, US & under IAEA safeguards) is still functioning, was not targeted by Israel, and poses minimal to no credible threat.

Do you mean the 6 September bombing by Israelis? The target appears to have been short range Scud missiles or missile parts & possibly a Russian radar installation, which might have been helping guard the Dair el Zor site.

Well, I don't know. I heard it straight out of the mouth of Charles Gibson, and I believe everything that he says.

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The actual policy that the fucktards in THIS administration believe in.... they are fostering End Times Prophecy.. stir up the forces of "evil" enough so we all meet at the battleground of Megiddo.. so they can get RAPTURED out and be with Jesus.. leaving all the unblievers behind.

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So that means I get left behind?

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Now honestly, would you really want to be stuck with all the Bible-thumpers for all of eternity??? That would be my idea of Hell.

Sort of like a single dove sitting on a telephone wire with twenty hawks. Gulp!

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Do you mean the 6 September bombing by Israelis? The target appears to have been short range Scud missiles or missile parts & possibly a Russian radar installation, which might have been helping guard the Dair el Zor site.

Last week I read of a rumor that what was bombed was a site where the Syrians had an accident while working on some missiles that spilled Sarin nerve gas, killing a bunch of people in the vicinity. That would explain why they aren't talking about it.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

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Last week I read of a rumor that what was bombed was a site where the Syrians had an accident while working on some missiles that spilled Sarin nerve gas, killing a bunch of people in the vicinity. That would explain why they aren't talking about it.

Those reports refer to a 15 July incident at a site close to Damascus. A pre-dawn explosion which reportedly killed15-30 people. There's no indication that Isrealis or other foreign states were directly involved in this. Appears to have been an explosion due to error, negligence, accident, or residual heat; it had been reaching 50C (122F) at the site the previous week.

There has been unconfirmed (although much suspected) suggestion that the site, which also had Scud-C missiles, (SS-1d ... I don't name 'em), was doing RDTE with chemical warheads. Sulfur mustard is the thought to be the agent. Much easier to synthesize than sarin or VX.

VR/Marg

p.s. Sarin is a liquid at STP not a "gas." Neither is sulfur mustard, which solidifies at ~56F (depending on how pure).

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
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Yep, you know what everyone else should do better than fucking anybody. Nice you should suggest a way to get rid of those you do not agree with. Now doesnt that make you a winner.

Your true colors are showing and they are red with cycle and hammer

I just read this elsewhere a little while ago. Your timing is impeccable sir

"....let's just say Rush and Bill's fans are extremely angry and prone to vulgarity, and need to work on their spelling.

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>VR/Marg

p.s. Sarin is a liquid at STP not a "gas." Neither is sulfur mustard, which solidifies at ~56F (depending on how pure).

Ah, that'll be why my recent batch seems to be solidifying at ~57.5F then........

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmtr7Z_KQyM

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

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Update reported in the NY Times:

I remain very skeptical.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/14/washington/14weapons.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

"WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 — Israel’s air attack on Syria last month was directed against a site that Israeli and American intelligence analysts judged was a partly constructed nuclear reactor, apparently modeled on one North Korea has used to create its stockpile of nuclear weapons fuel, according to American and foreign officials with access to the intelligence reports.

"The description of the target addresses one of the central mysteries surrounding the Sept. 6 attack, and suggests that Israel carried out the raid to demonstrate its determination to snuff out even a nascent nuclear project in a neighboring state. The Bush administration was divided at the time about the wisdom of Israel’s strike, American officials said, and some senior policy makers still regard the attack as premature.

"By contrast, the facility that the Israelis struck in Syria appears to have been much further from completion, the American and foreign officials said. They said it would have been years before the Syrians could have used the reactor to produce the spent nuclear fuel that could, through a series of additional steps, be reprocessed into bomb-grade plutonium."

"Many details remain unclear, most notably how much progress the Syrians had made in construction before the Israelis struck, the role of any assistance provided by North Korea, and whether the Syrians could make a plausible case that the reactor was intended to produce electricity. In Washington and Israel, information about the raid has been wrapped in extraordinary secrecy and restricted to just a handful of officials, while the Israeli press has been prohibited from publishing information about the attack."

"The New York Times reported this week that a debate had begun within the Bush administration about whether the information secretly cited by Israel to justify its attack should be interpreted by the United States as reason to toughen its approach to Syria and North Korea. In later interviews, officials made clear that the disagreements within the administration began this summer, as a debate about whether an Israeli attack on the incomplete reactor was warranted then."

"The officials did not say that the administration had ultimately opposed the Israeli strike, but that Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates were particularly concerned about the ramifications of a pre-emptive strike in the absence of an urgent threat."

“'There wasn’t a lot of debate about the evidence,' [which can be interpreted two ways -- the evidence was overwhelming ... or the debate emphasized politics and whatever evidence proposed was unchallenged] and said one American official familiar with the intense discussions over the summer between Washington and the government of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert of Israel. 'There was a lot of debate about how to respond to it.'

"Behind closed doors, however, Vice President Dick Cheney and other hawkish members of the administration have made the case that the same intelligence that prompted Israel to attack should lead the United States to reconsider delicate negotiations with North Korea over ending its nuclear program, as well as America’s diplomatic strategy toward Syria, which has been invited to join Middle East peace talks in Annapolis, Md., next month."

VR/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying