akarunway 1 #1 October 4, 2007 http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-games4oct04,0,3881557.story?coll=la-home-centerI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #2 October 4, 2007 A good idea, implemented in a bad way. The media is taking this way out of context. I think the Lt. here was just trying to motivate his troops, I would'nt be surprised if one of the slackers he is referring to dropped a dime to the media so they would'nt have to work. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #3 October 4, 2007 I've said it before and I'll say it again - "Many cops just ain't too friggin' bright." Maybe the crooks will take notice and have a burglary or rape competition. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #4 October 4, 2007 Quote A good idea, implemented in a bad way. The media is taking this way out of context. I think the Lt. here was just trying to motivate his troops, I would'nt be surprised if one of the slackers he is referring to dropped a dime to the media so they would'nt have to work. I see this as giving cops incentive to make unwarrented arrests. I don't see this as a smart way to motivate cops.("troops"?...)"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #5 October 4, 2007 slowly their mindset is revealed....they don't even realize it themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #6 October 4, 2007 Please........................., All you "I pay your taxes", "they ain't too bright", or the secret mindset crowd, how do we measure performance of an officers duties? The point I was trying to make was cops are very competitive people, the Lt. apparently was trying to tap that energy to improve performance. The article goes on to say there was no significant spike in arrests. There was a spike in impounded vehicles, that is a quality of life issue and should have been enforced in the first place. The military guy in me used the term "troops", sorry if it put a few panties in a bunch. I also said it was a bad idea from a perception point of view. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #7 October 4, 2007 I've said it before and I'll say it again - "Many cops just ain't too friggin' bright." *** I obviously have an intellectual deficit by trying to debate points with some of you. My signature line says it all. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #8 October 4, 2007 just like a cop to presume something. who said we wear panties? is that because we're not "troops"??? I for one understand the perspective a good cop has...but... I've also seen more than a fair share of cops with major attitude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #9 October 4, 2007 Quote I've said it before and I'll say it again - "Many cops just ain't too friggin' bright." *** I obviously have an intellectual deficit by trying to debate points with some of you. My signature line says it all. I don't think you, or most other cops are stupid. Many cops though, aren't too bright. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #10 October 4, 2007 QuotePlease........................., All you "I pay your taxes", "they ain't too bright", or the secret mindset crowd, how do we measure performance of an officers duties? The point I was trying to make was cops are very competitive people, the Lt. apparently was trying to tap that energy to improve performance. The article goes on to say there was no significant spike in arrests. There was a spike in impounded vehicles, that is a quality of life issue and should have been enforced in the first place. The military guy in me used the term "troops", sorry if it put a few panties in a bunch. I also said it was a bad idea from a perception point of view. "I pay your taxes"? "Quality of life"? "Military Guy"? Were you ever in the military? I don't wear panties, cop. Judging by the article and your post, I assume that a cop's performance is directly tied to people breaking the law. If one day people stopped breaking the law(not likely, I know), it should make the cops look like they were being very effective. Instead, with "competitions" like this, and judging performance on #'s of arrests or impounds, If people stopped breaking the law, by your own standards, cops would suck at their jobs. Tying job performance to #'s of arrests gives incentive to make unwarrented arrests. Period. I hope you don't wonder about why there are so many that think LEO"s "aint too bright". Many of them have lost sight of their place in this society."Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #11 October 4, 2007 "Tying job performance to #'s of arrests gives incentive to make unwarrented arrests. Period"-------------What he said. Couldn't have said it any better.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #12 October 4, 2007 I pay your taxes"? "Quality of life"? "Military Guy"? Were you ever in the military? I don't wear panties, cop. I'm not saying an officer should be measured by enforcement action. My officers get the same credit for a business check or a walking beat detail, as they do an enforcement action The "tax" comment eludes to those who always make it a point to say they pay my salary, especially for those who are doing something wrong. As far as quality of of life issues goes, would you want your neighborhood filled with junked cars? If you improve ones qualilty of life, they tend to take more pride in where they live, this has a direct impact on the crime rate. Do some reading, google the "broken windows" style of community policing. Yes, I'm (still) a military guy, have been for 25 yrs. I'm so dumb I've been able to juggle two demanding careers............. Are you sure you don't wear panties? Your post sounded kinda whiney......geeez........lighten up, i was just kidding. From your profile it looks like you jump a canopy the size of a large panty "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #13 October 4, 2007 Duh, I AGREE with you, I was asking how YOU would evaluate an officers performance. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #14 October 4, 2007 Quote Duh, I AGREE with you, I was asking how YOU would evaluate an officers performance. By his helpfullness and common courtesy and not being a prick just because he has a big gun. Actually the last two I had run ins w/ were very cool. And the ones at my 40 acre shooting range kinda look the other way about illegal weapons in Ca. Bad and good in every walk of life. Common courtesy is a two way street.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #15 October 4, 2007 Could'nt agree more! But enforcement action is a necessary part as well. I always try to be courteous, and expect the same of my guys. National Accreditation has a alot to do with standards and practices. I'm fortunate to work for one of only three departments in my state to have CALEA accreditation. We use many different factors to gauge performance. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevebabin 0 #16 October 4, 2007 Quote I'm not saying an officer should be measured by enforcement action. Yet you're defending a plan that does just that, passing it off as "just trying to motivate his troops" Quote Are you sure you don't wear panties? Quite sure. But I will try to lighten up as you suggest... Quote From your profile it looks like you jump a canopy the size of a large panty Shit! Now I wish I hadn't listed my hometown in my profile....I think I hear Springfields finest outside my front door...Do you want my birthday so you can run a more thourogh background check?"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings." "Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #17 October 4, 2007 Yet you're defending a plan that does just that, passing it off as "just trying to motivate his troops" Quote I never defended it, just tried to give a modivation or understanding. Quite sure. But I will try to lighten up as you suggest... Cool, although I like that cool silky feeling........ Do you want my birthday so you can run a more thourogh background check? *** Man, I've got enough to do, west of the Mississippi is the least of my concerns........even if you do wear panties,,,,,,,,,,,, "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #18 October 4, 2007 don't him riled up man! he has speeders to chase, kids with pot to arrest, skaters to run off....he's busy fighting serious crime now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #19 October 4, 2007 That's funny, Here we go.......... Officer, you are just messing with me because....... I'm/a: Skater Metal Head Black White Redneck Straight Edge Stoner ( I have to admit, I kinda like true stoners) Motor Head (not Lemme) Male Female Shemale (really) Rich Poor Middle Class Media Alternative media Not an all inclusive list but fairly accurate over my 20 yrs. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #20 October 5, 2007 I cannot imagine the stuff you guys have to see and deal with...and the aprehension of approaching us unknown citizens these days..just lighten up some...it's not ALL that serious! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #21 October 5, 2007 QuoteThat's funny, Here we go.......... Officer, you are just messing with me because....... I'm/a: Skater Metal Head Black White Redneck Straight Edge Stoner ( I have to admit, I kinda like true stoners) Motor Head (not Lemme) Male Female Shemale (really) Rich Poor Middle Class Media Alternative media Not an all inclusive list but fairly accurate over my 20 yrs.http://wcbstv.com/local/daughter.in.law.2.313342.html As a cop what is your take on this story? Where's Kennedy?I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #22 October 5, 2007 Already been addressed. I try not to address media accounts, the coroner had already made an assessment. Check the thread about it. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #23 October 6, 2007 Quote http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-games4oct04,0,3881557.story?coll=la-home-center The latest.http://www.breitbart.tv/html/6414.htmlAnd I had the pleasure of going thru a DUI/DL checkpoint tonite after the kids football game. YOUR PAPERS PLEASE.Edit to add: I had more firepower under my jacket/seat than any single one one them.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #24 October 6, 2007 I personally do not believe in DUI or any other checkpoints, unless it follows a major crime or some other type of investigative situation. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #25 October 6, 2007 Quote I personally do not believe in DUI or any other checkpoints, unless it follows a major crime or some other type of investigative situation. Good. You must be one of the good guys! Need more of ya!I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
