pop 0 #1 September 28, 2007 too bad no video.... http://www.koco.com/news/14222273/detail.html7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #2 September 28, 2007 If this guy dies, then the person that tasered him should be charged with murder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 September 28, 2007 Bullshit. The fuck tried to do himself with a pencil, and then grandstanded on a 5th story balcony. Let Darwin take over.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #4 September 28, 2007 so you're saying if someone in a position of authority catches someone in the midst of suicide or grandstanding on a balcony, they have the right to kill them?these taserings in the news lately prove one thing to me..they're not as harmless a device as "the man" would have us believe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #5 September 28, 2007 Well I think its BS how it was reported that the guy jumped after being tasered. He was standing on a ledge, and obviously fell due to the electricity flowing through his body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #6 September 28, 2007 he fell due to gravity, the electricity merely caused a lack of balance and muscle control. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #7 September 28, 2007 The bottom line is this Gene Pool needs some serious chlorine. The lefties have succeeded in taking darwin way too far out of the equation. This guy robs a store, Then gets caught. Cops spend 4 hours trying to talk him down. At some point you just have to realize you are done trying to baby a criminal. After 4 hours, It was time to shit or get off the pot. Quit fuckin babying criminals. Bad things SHOULD happen to bad people. Have a nice day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #8 September 28, 2007 Wow, Talk about rush to judgement, there is VERY minimal information about this. And again, it was the suspects actions that led to his untimely death. Next time the cops can use their secret decoder ring with net shooting attachment. Geez people, get real! "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #9 September 28, 2007 Quote And again, it was the suspects actions that led to his untimely death. But, But, But No-one should be responcible for thier own actions right??The limited info says.. Bad GUy (criminal) goes on ledge, Good guys spend 4 hours trying to save him. Talk him down. Didnt work, I guess it was time to clear the ledge one way or another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #10 September 28, 2007 Quoteso you're saying if someone in a position of authority catches someone in the midst of suicide or grandstanding on a balcony, they have the right to kill them? How'd you get that? Quotethese taserings in the news lately prove one thing to me..they're not as harmless a device as "the man" would have us believe. According to this story, the tazer had little effect. On another point - he's got a fractured pelvis. I don't think that's a life threatening injury. Sounds like he dove out the window, flipped over and landed on his ass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #11 September 28, 2007 "after he stabbed himself in the neck with a pencil." " About four hours into the standoff, authorities said they moved into a neighboring room and tried to bring him inside from off the ledge by offering him a cigarette. Authorities said a struggle ensued and that a Taser was used on him." Just a guess on my part apparently...the taser at the very least had the effect of making him attempt to flee the situation. My atatement was "taserings in the news" I was not focusing on this one incident as much as the emerging pattern of serious injuries and deaths related to the tasering incidents...much like this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #12 September 28, 2007 >Cops spend 4 hours trying to talk him down. At some point you just have >to realize you are done trying to baby a criminal. After 4 hours, It was time >to shit or get off the pot. I agree. And had they just plain left at that point, said "hey, do whatever you want, buddy" fine. However, they didn't do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #13 September 28, 2007 Everyone is relying on a one page media web report. These initial reports are normally very inaccurate, and you have absolutly no idea if the tazer had any effect on the outcome of this situation. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #14 September 28, 2007 Quote I was not focusing on this one incident as much as the emerging pattern of serious injuries and deaths related to the tasering incidents...much like this one. Now on that I agree. They are using taser way too often when shooting the Criminals that resist arrest and put the officers in danger would be MUCH more effective. Run from the Cops, they should be able to shoot you. Struggle with a Cop, They should be able to shoot you. The gene pool just keeps getting worse, These people getting tasered generally live to do stupid shit again. Make the world a better place, Shoot an Idiot today! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #15 September 28, 2007 Quote Quote I was not focusing on this one incident as much as the emerging pattern of serious injuries and deaths related to the tasering incidents...much like this one. Now on that I agree. They are using taser way too often when shooting the Criminals that resist arrest and put the officers in danger would be MUCH more effective. Run from the Cops, they should be able to shoot you. Struggle with a Cop, They should be able to shoot you. The gene pool just keeps getting worse, These people getting tasered generally live to do stupid shit again. Make the world a better place, Shoot an Idiot today! Put the Judge Dredd comix back onto the coffee table and slowly back away...... It's Friday for Christ sake - who pissed in your gene pool this morning? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #16 September 28, 2007 Quote It's Friday for Christ sake - who pissed in your gene pool this morning? Did you not even catch my "Have a nice Day." Witha Happy face and all.Just hate it when people keep making excuses for Stupid people and/or criminals and then want to rant about bad things happening to them. We need Darwin in the wrost kinda way in the world today.I dont get up set when Criminals and /or stupid people get whats coming to them. Makes me feel better and that there really is some justice in the world. These cops tried for 4 hours to get the down safely. After 4 hours, if the guy still waouldnt come down.. Taser, Shoot him, Kick him off.. Just put an end to the problem. I see no problem at all with that. Actions have consequences. Time to quit babying criminals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #17 September 28, 2007 damn I sure hope other cops have a better attention to detail! he ain't dead yet! Please take your time with those incident reports! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #18 September 29, 2007 I think that if someone wants to kill themselves that there should be no law against it; however, just because someone threatens suicide doesn't make it open season to shoot them. Obviously you have not experienced the abuse and corruption of the criminal "justice" system. Blindly trusting the police is about as ignorant as you can be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thanatos340 1 #19 September 29, 2007 Not saying Blindly Shoot them. They tried to save the guy for 4 hours. That didnt work, It was time to move on. As for blindly "Trusting" Cops. I am not saying that, But I am saying that if you run from them or try to resisit arrest.. Dont whine when they use whatever means they have available to put a stop to that. I am sick of seeing car chases, People running from cops and then people trying to fight with cops when they are finally caught. 99.99% of the time these are criminals that know they can do these things and not face repercussions. Screw that. Someone runs, Shoot them. Stop putting up with bullshit from criminals. Try to cuff someone and they struggle, Taser their ass and get the cuffs on. If they die.. well they should NOT have struggled with the cops. Actions have consequences. Dont think you should be arrested? Take it up with the judge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #20 September 29, 2007 so the other .01% should go down too? You also realize the cost of taking it up with the judge??? Cops count on that...in fact the entire "justice" system counts on our inability to afford that ability. Are you as harsh on your own kind?My kids screwed up repeatedly growing up..much like we all do. I was kind enough to let them live and learn... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbrinkman 0 #21 October 1, 2007 so when you say you let them live and learn, do you mean you whooped their ass and told them why, or did you make them sit in a corner then take them out for ice cream later? personally, its natural for people in general to push boundries, if taken to far? what works better than physical punishment. i say hurt em, shockem do whatever you need to to MAKE them listen. i was raised liek that and i stopped EFFIN up at a very young age. now im a good kid:)Live Love Learn FLY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 871 #22 October 1, 2007 I've never laid a hand on my kids. I got my ass beat on a regular basis as a kid. My dad hit me with a closed fist a lot....until I fought back. Something I swore my kids would never experience. They're amazing human beings too. I don't understand what violence accomplishes. Outside of vengence for those that harm and/or kill children, there are a number of ways to deal with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #23 October 1, 2007 > then let's all hope you don't reproduce! Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #24 October 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteIf this guy dies, then the person that tasered him should be charged with murder. Negligence perhaps...but murder? While it seems dumb to do, the taser guy was probably trying to subdue the guy to save his life (as stupid as that sounds). My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #25 October 2, 2007 QuoteQuoteThe bottom line is this Gene Pool needs some serious chlorine. The lefties have succeeded in taking darwin way too far out of the equation. This guy robs a store, Then gets caught. Cops spend 4 hours trying to talk him down. At some point you just have to realize you are done trying to baby a criminal. After 4 hours, It was time to shit or get off the pot. Quit fuckin babying criminals. Bad things SHOULD happen to bad people. I am usually very hard nosed about dealing with criminals but it sounds like the guy had serious mental issues so maybe the usual "good riddance" does not apply here My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0