SpeedRacer 1 #1 September 27, 2007 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21000298/ from the article: But the bigger part of the picture is the question of allocation of resources from Afghanistan to Iraq. All Delta Force and “dark side” Rangers were moved to Iraq, said a special operations officer involved in the Afghanistan operation. Left behind in Afghanistan were SEAL Team Six and some Rangers. But apparently in this case, not enough “dark side” were available. The 82nd, said a second special operations officer, “is a poor substitute … [it is] a blunder to use them on an op with dark side operators.” Nice going, Bushies. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 September 27, 2007 THIS is the actual relevant quote from the article: Quote One of the officials interviewed by NBC News, a general officer, admitted Tuesday that it was “possible” Bin Laden was at Tora Bora, saying, in fact, "I still don’t know if he was there." It's not that the op failed because of lack of coordination, they simply did not know if he was there or not.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #3 September 27, 2007 ... and I almost won the lottery."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #4 September 27, 2007 My point was: consider how things would have been different today if we'd stayed & finished the job against Al Quaeda in Afghanistan, instead of sending most of our troops over to Iraq and thereby actually EXPANDING and PROLONGING the war. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #5 September 27, 2007 QuoteMy point was: consider how things would have been different today if we'd stayed & finished the job against Al Quaeda in Afghanistan, instead of sending most of our troops over to Iraq and thereby actually EXPANDING and PROLONGING the war. Our ridiculously liberal government would have found something else to spend all the money on. Granted, it might have been something more useful than a bunch of dead bodies, but it still would have been a waste of money. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #6 September 27, 2007 QuoteMy point was: consider how things would have been different today if we'd stayed & finished the job against Al Quaeda in Afghanistan, instead of sending most of our troops over to Iraq and thereby actually EXPANDING and PROLONGING the war. What do you consider finishing the job? They know that they can't stand up in a fight where they are the only ones around. They will always hide themselves in a civilian population for the purpose of recruitment and having a shield. I'm sure that we will be chasing these clowns around the globe for the next twenty or thirty years, unless we put a serious smackdown on anyone who has anything to do with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #7 September 27, 2007 QuoteWhat do you consider finishing the job? Pretty much what he said. Staying where they were and going after them instead of pulling the resources to go where they weren't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 September 27, 2007 >What do you consider finishing the job? Staying in Afghanistan until Al Qaeda was no more. (Too late now, needless to say.) > I'm sure that we will be chasing these clowns around the globe for the > next twenty or thirty years . . . . . . until we discover that they are enemies of _another_ enemy of ours, and then we'll start shipping them guns and ammo again. And anyone who opposes arming the Islamic terrorists will be called an america-hating commie lover (or whatever the latest catch phrase is.) Such things go in cycles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #9 September 28, 2007 How about officials stop opening their damn mouths to the press about how close they believe they were, what they did or didn't know, and how our operations work? For crying out loud... Am I the only one who's sick of reading, "...an official told us under condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject matter" ? If you catch him, great... we'd all appreciate knowing. Until then... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 September 28, 2007 Quote How about officials stop opening their damn mouths to the press about how close they believe they were, what they did or didn't know, and how our operations work? For crying out loud... Am I the only one who's sick of reading, "...an official told us under condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject matter" ? If you catch him, great... we'd all appreciate knowing. Until then... WTF? for that to happen all of the public officials and policians would have to be on our side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,183 #11 September 28, 2007 Quote Quote How about officials stop opening their damn mouths to the press about how close they believe they were, what they did or didn't know, and how our operations work? For crying out loud... Am I the only one who's sick of reading, "...an official told us under condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the subject matter" ? If you catch him, great... we'd all appreciate knowing. Until then... WTF? for that to happen all of the public officials and policians would have to be on our side. And it would have to be a priority of the CinC. "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #12 September 28, 2007 You can only hope that statement is disinformation. You can bet your ass that Osama does not believe that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,183 #13 September 28, 2007 QuoteYou can only hope that statement is disinformation. You can bet your ass that Osama does not believe that. Disinformation - another euphemism for "Lie"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #14 September 28, 2007 The 82nd, said a second special operations officer, “is a poor substitute … [it is] a blunder to use them on an op with dark side operators.” Quote I've been in Ranger battalion and I've seen what the 82nd is capable of and this officer deserves a right hook to the jaw for saying that. In the capacity the Rangers are typically used the 82nd can get the job done if their command allows them to operate the way they need to. They're soldiers, you give them a tasking, they WILL accomplish it.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
