Your papers please

[akarunway 1]

Interesting website >http://www.papersplease.org/wp/

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

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The Transportation Security Administration will hold a public hearing in Washington, DC, this Thursday morning, September 20, 2007 on the TSA’s so-called Secure Flight scheme to require government-issued travel credentials and individualized, explicit, prior permission for all domestic airline travelers within the U.S., and to subject us to government-compelled search and interrogation by private commercial third parties whenever we fly.

FUCK THAT

~D
Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me.
Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

[warpedskydiver 0]

That almost smells of onion

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That almost smells of onion

Here is the NPRM for "secure flight" http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/SecureFlightNPRM20070809.pdf

~D
Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me.
Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

[Zipp0 1]

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The Transportation Security Administration will hold a public hearing in Washington, DC, this Thursday morning, September 20, 2007 on the TSA’s so-called Secure Flight scheme to require government-issued travel credentials and individualized, explicit, prior permission for all domestic airline travelers within the U.S., and to subject us to government-compelled search and interrogation by private commercial third parties whenever we fly.

FUCK THAT

What are you hiding?

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Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

[normiss 892]

zactly...
"if you've got nothing to hide..."

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The Transportation Security Administration will hold a public hearing in Washington, DC, this Thursday morning, September 20, 2007 on the TSA’s so-called Secure Flight scheme to require government-issued travel credentials and individualized, explicit, prior permission for all domestic airline travelers within the U.S., and to subject us to government-compelled search and interrogation by private commercial third parties whenever we fly.

FUCK THAT

What are you hiding?

I'm not sure. It depends on what you are looking for. I would prefer to "hide" by default though. My personal business and habits are not of the governments concern.

~D
Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me.
Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka

[normiss 892]

so what you're saying is...you're resisting?

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so what you're saying is...you're resisting?

Cop: Travel Papers please.
FAST: This is America. I don't need no stinking papers!
Cop: Stop Resisting!
FAST: What did I do?! (being dragged from the boarding area) What did I do!?
Cop: I said stop resisting!
FAST: Don't tase me, Bro!!! OWWWWWWWWEEE! OWWWWWE!!

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Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

[Zing 2]

I didn't copy the link yesterday, but did anyone else see the MSNBC story about the "specially trained" TSA crews.
They wander around airports observing people and set them up for additional scrutiny due to the observed ones' facial expressions and other "subtle" clues.
After a mere few hours of special training to spot these potential threats to airline security, they have sent 400,000 folks in for additional questioning, scrutiny and searches ... and found 300 people guilty of infractions, though they the story didn't bother to say what those infractions were.

Zing Lurks

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I didn't copy the link yesterday, but did anyone else see the MSNBC story about the "specially trained" TSA crews.
They wander around airports observing people and set them up for additional scrutiny due to the observed ones' facial expressions and other "subtle" clues.
After a mere few hours of special training to spot these potential threats to airline security, they have sent 400,000 folks in for additional questioning, scrutiny and searches ... and found 300 people guilty of infractions, though they the story didn't bother to say what those infractions were.

I bet one of the subtle clue is that the person looks like maybe they are from the middle east. If not, it should be.

But this sounds like a pretty efficient way to waste loads of money and manpower.

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Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down.

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Glad you mentioned that, Zippo, because the article did point out that the TSA's use of "subtle clues" is not racial profiling.
Just the numbers alone, 400,000 observed to be exhibiting "subtle clues" that they might be a terrorist, smuggler, illegal something or other with a mere 300 violators nabbed shows it to be a massive waste of money and manpower.
Also, the article did not say that any terrorists had been apprehended, only that 300 violators had been nabbed.
I have to wonder how many of those 300 offenders posed a true threat to airline/aircraft security. How many of them were packing a cigarette lighter, which are now again legal to carry onto an airplane? How many had a small quantity of a controlled substance? I know of one person dragged off an airplane because she didn't have a prescription for the three tabs of Viagra found in her purse. Now there's a real threat to airline security ... can you hijack or cause an airplane to crash armed with a raging hardon?
I've had a couple of those relieved while in flight, but the airplane didn't seem to mind.

Zing Lurks