Bin Laden Calls for Americans To Convert to Islam

[mnealtx 0]

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Why aren't you in Afghanistan then...you must be a chickenhawk.

I am not a hawk to begin with, unlike your Kosovo colleague that you're sticking up for. So to say I'm a chickenhawk is just silly.

Ah, ok... so you have no basis AT ALL for calling ANYONE a chickenhawk...got it.

As for being silly, I don't think so. You're wanting someone ELSE to go do something YOU won't do - isn't that how you were defining a chickenhawk, up-thread?

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As for being silly, I don't think so. You're wanting someone ELSE to go do something YOU won't do - isn't that how you were defining a chickenhawk, up-thread?

Gee that sounds like our entire administration....Warmongering for fun and profit with the lives of OTHER PEOPLE that they themselves RAN from when "We Were Not Soldiers Once and Young"

Here is a link... just for you guys who think war is so grand

http://thewall-usa.com/names.asp

They are just names...

How many names will it take before THIS ill advised adventure is over.... what will their memorial look like in our nations capital.

[masterblaster72 0]

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Ah, ok... so you have no basis AT ALL for calling ANYONE a chickenhawk...got it.

I called no one a chickenhawk. You did. I'm not the one spouting out fantasies of bloodshed in every other post. If he's talking tough, he might want to walk the talk get off his keyboard and pick up the gun.

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As for being silly, I don't think so. You're wanting someone ELSE to go do something YOU won't do - isn't that how you were defining a chickenhawk, up-thread?

Is your friend unable to stick up for himself? Are you his spokesperson? Way to divert -- don't put it on me, I'm not the one talking bombs and guns and heads of muslims in every other post. I'm calling bullshit when I see it.

As for me? I don't want these wars fought. They're not designed to be won -- they're designed to be indefinite.

Mr. Harju wants people to fight, he wants muslims dead. Why the f.ck isn't HE over there? If you agree with him, why aren't YOU over there? I'm asking a question, not calling anyone names like you are.

He should stop the tough talk and turn it into action rather than continually conjuring up fantasies of boming and killing people. If he thinks war is such a wonderful thing, it might do him well to get in the sh.t and fight.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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Last time I checked the going rate to convert was £50 and half an hour with a friendly Mullah. No messy operations required, no in depth tests on Islamic knowledge needed and absolutely no realistic expectation of the convert actually doing anything Islamic.

I've done it and have got the certificate somewhere around to prove it. Does that make me a Muslim in anything other than name only? Not a chance. Do I feel like a hypercrite for doing it. Yes definitely. I did however do it for a very good reason as it allows me to travel to my wife's home country easily.

[Darius11 12]

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Is your friend unable to stick up for himself? Are you his spokesperson? Way to divert -- don't put it on me, I'm not the one talking bombs and guns and heads of muslims in every other post. I'm calling bullshit when I see it.

As for me? I don't want these wars fought. They're not designed to be won -- they're designed to be indefinite.

Mr. Harju wants people to fight, he wants muslims dead. Why the f.ck isn't HE over there? If you agree with him, why aren't YOU over there? I'm asking a question, not calling anyone names like you are.

He should stop the tough talk and turn it into action rather than continually conjuring up fantasies of boming and killing people. If he thinks war is such a wonderful thing, it might do him well to get in the sh.t and fight.

Wow all this time I thought he was in Iraq I figured the day to day grind of Iraq has made him so hateful, I had no clue he is not even close.

Well that explains a lot then I guess. It is so easy to want blood and act tough when you sipping coffee and typing on DZ.com.

You know I always said I wish they would send all the war supporters to and fight, let them get a taste of what war is like.

I might have not fought in war but at least I have lived threw one maybe that’s why I hate war so much, specially one that is so obviously unjustified.



John: This is the first time I opened this thread thanks for the poll options they cracked me up.
Ever consider a carrier for Fox news. They could use a man like you sir unless you are already working for them off course.

I do feel left out I can’t convert to Islam I already am Muslim.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[Skyrad 0]

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Bollox - he's been dead for years.

No he just looks like that but he was in Australia only last week!

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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[Butters 0]

It is a volunteer military ... if you don't want to fight (for whatever reason) then don't volunteer. If you volunteer and believe you won't have to fight ... study more history. I'm not saying we always fight for the right reason ... I'm just saying that we always fight.

PS: Do you believe we would remain in Iraq if we had to have the draft? I don't.

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

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It may be an all volunteer military but I DO expect our leaders to use them for what they are designed for.... and to use them sparingly.

We had a perfectly good place to have a nice little war and to bring democracy to a country sadly in need of it.
Afghanistan...remember that one... the place where Bin Laden trained his murderous thugs????

But Alas... all they have in the way of resources.... are opium poppies..... and although I am sure the same people who profited in the Golden Triangle....and Iran Contra.....to fund clandestine operations are doing quite nicely in Afghanistan now...its just not the business the Bush and Cheney Families and the Neo-Cons who supported them can understand. Iraq has Oil..... and greed and incompetence took over instead of doing what was right and getting the people who actually attacked us on 9/11.

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We had a perfectly good place to have a nice little war and to bring democracy to a country sadly in need of it.
Afghanistan...remember that one... the place where Bin Laden trained his murderous thugs????

So you're saying that by dumping money, time and resources into Afghanastan, i.e. a McyD on every mountaintop, they would suddenly find no more reason to plant poppies? It's ok to destroy one countrys' infrastructure, as sorry as it is, and rebuild it in our vision, but not another?

[Butters 0]

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It may be an all volunteer military but I DO expect our leaders to use them for what they are designed for.... and to use them sparingly.

So do I ... but that hasn't always, isn't, and won't always be the case. When the checks and balances of the government fail the people, the people must become the checks and balances. Stop volunteering and the war will stop.

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We had a perfectly good place to have a nice little war and to bring democracy to a country sadly in need of it.
Afghanistan...remember that one... the place where Bin Laden trained his murderous thugs????

I remember Afghanistan (and Pakistan) and I agree.

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Iraq has Oil.....

You think that is all that matters? There are plenty of other places with oil ... why don't we attack them? Why, because there is more to the story.

Edit: We should never have had to invade Iraq. Iran and Saudi Arabia should have already taken care of Saddam Hussein ...

"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch

[Skyrad 0]

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News:

Bin Laden Calls for Americans To Convert to Islam

Osama bin Laden appeared for the first time in three years in a video today, telling Americans they should convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end...

Source: The Sun

I can see you as a Islamist John

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
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Osama bin Laden is like a turd that you can't get rid of no matter how many times you flush. Just when you think he's finally gone he bobs right back up the pipes into the bowl.

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[Darius11 12]

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Osama bin Laden is like a turd that you can't get rid of no matter how many times you flush. Just when you think he's finally gone he bobs right back up the pipes into the bowl.

Especially when you send the plumbers to the wrong bowl

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

[shropshire 0]

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Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

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Well, Darius, you realize all your criticism just gives aid & comfort to the enemy.

You are obviously a Turd Sympathizer.

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[masterblaster72 0]

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[Darius11 12]

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Well, Darius, you realize all your criticism just gives aid & comfort to the enemy.

You are obviously a Turd Sympathizer.

Mr. Hanky you have to love him.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Osama bin Laden is like a turd that you can't get rid of no matter how many times you flush. Just when you think he's finally gone he bobs right back up the pipes into the bowl.

Especially when you send the plumbers to the wrong bowl

So you want America to attack Pakistan?

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Had The Master of Moron not waltzed into Iraq, wasting precious time, troops and resources they may had caught the prick. But, Bush has a problem with staying the course and went for an easy target only to create a quagmire and a recruiting tool for Al Qaida. Bush fucked up big time and Binny Laden is laughing his ass off. Good going Bush!

You go lead our country then.

You bitch so much it is sick, but never venture a solution, try it for once.

[warpedskydiver 0]

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Had The Master of Moron not waltzed into Iraq...

There was no war in Iraq on 9/11/01, and yet Bin Laden attacked us anyway. What was his excuse then? Why should you believe him now?

Are you on your knees on a prayer rug facing Mecca?

Yep, with his ass up in the air waiting

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Ah, ok... so you have no basis AT ALL for calling ANYONE a chickenhawk...got it.

I called no one a chickenhawk. You did. I'm not the one spouting out fantasies of bloodshed in every other post. If he's talking tough, he might want to walk the talk get off his keyboard and pick up the gun.

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As for being silly, I don't think so. You're wanting someone ELSE to go do something YOU won't do - isn't that how you were defining a chickenhawk, up-thread?

Is your friend unable to stick up for himself? Are you his spokesperson? Way to divert -- don't put it on me, I'm not the one talking bombs and guns and heads of muslims in every other post. I'm calling bullshit when I see it.

As for me? I don't want these wars fought. They're not designed to be won -- they're designed to be indefinite.

Mr. Harju wants people to fight, he wants muslims dead. Why the f.ck isn't HE over there? If you agree with him, why aren't YOU over there? I'm asking a question, not calling anyone names like you are.

He should stop the tough talk and turn it into action rather than continually conjuring up fantasies of boming and killing people. If he thinks war is such a wonderful thing, it might do him well to get in the sh.t and fight.

I don't hide behind a pseudonym or alias to make personal attacks.

Edit to add: This thread got started because I, like most people in my country, don't want some holier-than-thou hypocrite who is currently squatting in a cave somewhere with a towel on his head, telling me what to do. Perhaps you feel differently.

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