billvon 3,118 #51 September 5, 2007 >but it still takes a person with evil intent to 'push that button' . . . I agree. But a device that takes nothing more than a button push (or a trigger pull) to end a life is inherently more dangerous than a rope. It is surely true that the person in both cases is responsible for what happens - but it is also true that a gun is not forgiving of error, rage or misidentification, whereas a jump rope generally is. Which is why we treat guns differently than jump ropes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #52 September 5, 2007 Quote>but it still takes a person with evil intent to 'push that button' . . . I agree. But a device that takes nothing more than a button push (or a trigger pull) to end a life is inherently more dangerous than a rope. It is surely true that the person in both cases is responsible for what happens - but it is also true that a gun is not forgiving of error, rage or misidentification, whereas a jump rope generally is. Which is why we treat guns differently than jump ropes. Again, agreed - but Paul seems to be inferring that the weapon is somehow responsible for the action of the user.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #53 September 5, 2007 QuoteQuote*sigh* Ok, Paul... I'll make it easy on you, and rephrase my statement so that you can rebut: UNTOLD MILLIONS of American gun owners didn't commit a crime yesterday... I can't refute that, however, you can't refute this statment either, "A number of gun owners yesterday, killed their spouces with guns." True, but while he can use untold millions, you can't even accurately use untold dozens. I expect the average to be a single digit number. So you got millions, and you got less than 10. Since I know you like the phrase "order of magnitude," we're talking more than 6 here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #54 September 5, 2007 QuoteI will be most impressed if you can come up with a _single_ example of a double-dutch enthusiast strangling their spouse with a jumprope yesterday! Hey, those double-dutch enthusiasts are into some pretty kinky stuff. But they usually do it in the privacy of their own homes, so we don't always hear about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #55 September 5, 2007 >But they usually do it in the privacy of their own homes, so we don't always hear about it. I don't know about that. I hear they're the ones who go to those "do you up the butt before you can leave" stores. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
