idrankwhat 0 #76 August 31, 2007 Quote Profile has been updated. I have never posted here before. I am new to the forum just like I am new to the sport. 1 jump and counting. Congratulations on the first jump! I mean the skydive, not the jump into this forum. You may grow to regret one of those decisions Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #77 August 31, 2007 >They were found. Just not very much. Riiight. And the hijackers were Iraqi. And the world wanted us to invade Iraq. You're sorta proving my point for me here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #78 August 31, 2007 Quote Profile has been updated. I have never posted here before. I am new to the forum just like I am new to the sport. 1 jump and counting. Cool, and thanks for setting a good example.We have a lot of people come here who still hide anonymously behind their keyboards.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #79 August 31, 2007 Quote I think you could extrapolate that data from posters on this discussion board. Why, I had no idea you were an ardent FOX viewer! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #80 August 31, 2007 QuoteProfile has been updated. If Kallend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #81 August 31, 2007 >If Kallend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it? I would! Well, I guess it would depend on the bridge. Maybe not Piney Creek. Broke my foot last time I jumped there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #82 September 1, 2007 Quote>They were found. Just not very much. Riiight. And the hijackers were Iraqi. And the world wanted us to invade Iraq. You're sorta proving my point for me here. Are you denying my assertion or not? The question was NOT if a significant amount of WMD were found. Fox news viewers are likely to be better informed of the FACT that SOME were found. I understand that you want the question to mean something other than what it is. I think that the results of polls should never be reported without the EXACT wording of the question clearly included. So often the actual question is paraphrased/edited to cover up the intentional deception. A fine example was a poll result that was described as showing little support for SCOTUS nominee Clarence Thomas. What ws left out of the reporting of the poll result was the question, which started off by listing a bunch of allegations against him.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #83 September 1, 2007 QuoteQuote>They were found. Just not very much. Riiight. And the hijackers were Iraqi. And the world wanted us to invade Iraq. You're sorta proving my point for me here. Are you denying my assertion or not? The question was NOT if a significant amount of WMD were found. Fox news viewers are likely to be better informed of the FACT that SOME were found. I understand that you want the question to mean something other than what it is. I think that the results of polls should never be reported without the EXACT wording of the question clearly included. So often the actual question is paraphrased/edited to cover up the intentional deception. A fine example was a poll result that was described as showing little support for SCOTUS nominee Clarence Thomas. What ws left out of the reporting of the poll result was the question, which started off by listing a bunch of allegations against him. You know perfectly well that the ancient unusable munitions that were found abandoned were NOT the WMDs that Bush, Powell, Rumsfeld and Cheney referred to in statements like "We know where they are" and "This is a mobile bioweapons lab".... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #84 September 1, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote>They were found. Just not very much. Riiight. And the hijackers were Iraqi. And the world wanted us to invade Iraq. You're sorta proving my point for me here. Are you denying my assertion or not? The question was NOT if a significant amount of WMD were found. Fox news viewers are likely to be better informed of the FACT that SOME were found. I understand that you want the question to mean something other than what it is. I think that the results of polls should never be reported without the EXACT wording of the question clearly included. So often the actual question is paraphrased/edited to cover up the intentional deception. A fine example was a poll result that was described as showing little support for SCOTUS nominee Clarence Thomas. What ws left out of the reporting of the poll result was the question, which started off by listing a bunch of allegations against him. You know perfectly well that the ancient unusable munitions that were found abandoned were NOT the WMDs that Bush, Powell, Rumsfeld and Cheney referred to in statements like "We know where they are" and "This is a mobile bioweapons lab". I agree, but that was not the question supposedly posed to the Fox News viewers. The question asked, according to what Billvon posted, was very simple. The simple, correct answer was more often known by viewers of Fox News.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #85 September 1, 2007 >Are you denying my assertion or not? Yes, I am. Weapons of mass destruction were NOT found. Just as if you found a distributor, a few tires and a differential lying on the ground, and claimed you found a car - you would be lying, even though you found parts of one. >I think that the results of polls should never be reported without the >EXACT wording of the question clearly included. "Since the war with Iraq ended, is it your impression that the US has or has not found Iraqi weapons of mass destruction?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #86 September 1, 2007 Quote>Are you denying my assertion or not? Yes, I am. Weapons of mass destruction were NOT found. Just as if you found a distributor, a few tires and a differential lying on the ground, and claimed you found a car - you would be lying, even though you found parts of one. >I think that the results of polls should never be reported without the >EXACT wording of the question clearly included. "Since the war with Iraq ended, is it your impression that the US has or has not found Iraqi weapons of mass destruction?" That is a really crappy analogy, and not at all helpful to understanding the issue. Would you be willing to be exposed to what was found? It certainly isn't as effective as it was originally, but I don't think it was determined to be safe, was it? The fact remains that Fox News viewers were much more likely to know the details of what was found.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,119 #87 September 2, 2007 >That is a really crappy analogy . . . Of course. Any analogy that indicates an error on your part is "crappy." >Would you be willing to be exposed to what was found? Not at all! I am certain the degraded material is still quite nasty. But then again, if you have a pool, you have chemicals that are just as dangerous (and have in fact been used in chemical attacks in Iraq.) I suspect that if you claimed your neighbor had WMD's people would laugh at you, just as people laugh at the FOX viewers who think we really DID find WMD's in Iraq. But feel free to claim either one. I'll go with our own weapons inspectors over FOX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #88 September 4, 2007 That would be a no. Just my way of backing up my opinions. QuoteQuoteProfile has been updated. If Kallend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #89 September 4, 2007 QuoteThat would be a no. Just my way of backing up my opinions. So you have no desire to be a BASE jumper, then? Quote QuoteQuoteProfile has been updated. If Kallend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #90 September 4, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat would be a no. Just my way of backing up my opinions. So you have no desire to be a BASE jumper, then? Quote Sign me up. I would love to give base jumping a try. QuoteQuoteProfile has been updated. If Kallend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do it?The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #91 September 4, 2007 Quote I am not talking about her or the Clinton pattern of dirty money. I am talking about the double dam standard of the way the media will cover it. Nice try Did Fox cover the Alan B. Fabian indictment scandal out of the Romney camp?_________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #92 September 7, 2007 Update!!! Daniel Tsu paid a couple million in bail money and promised to appear in court in Frisco on Wednesday, but skipped out. He was to ask that his bail be reduced, and he was supposed to turn over his passport. But he didn't show and his bail was forfeited. He was arrested last night at a hospital in Grand Junction, Colorado, where he is recovering from an unspecified illness - apparently a bout of delirium is part of it. I just thought I'd add that - when you are on the lam, don't go doing things that bring national attention to yourself. Then you should avoid having acute health attacks on public transportation. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/07/MN9OS10B5.DTL&feed=rss.news My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
