Hey Mike.... moe of the same.... what is the excuse of the day here??

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http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/12/mccain-state-co-chairman-arrested/
A day after four of Sen. John McCain's top political strategists stepped down, the Arizona Republican's presidential campaign was dealt another setback when the co-chairman of his Florida campaign was arrested Wednesday for allegedly offering an undercover police officer money for a sex act, Titusville police said.

Florida State Rep. Bob Allen faces charges of solicitation for prostitution after he was arrested in a Titusville city park that had been under surveillance, police said.



Earlier this week, U.S. Senator David Vitter, the southern regional chairman for Rudy Giuliani's presidential campaign, was linked to the so-called DC Madam's escort service.
It was the second blow for Giuliani's campaign. Last month, South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, the state chairman for Giuliani's campaign, was indicted on federal cocaine charges.





Ok my Right Wing readers how do you spin these little.....indiscretions...More Party of Morality.. Sex and Drugs and Republican politics at its finest...

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Pretty soon they'll be smokin' crack like the rest of us.

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

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I guess I am kinda wierd..... my idea of getting high.. is full altitude ..and in our Porter.. that usually means 15K

Adrenaline from going REALLLLY fast ( 300MPH) is good enough for me...

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Adrenaline from going REALLLLY fast ( 300MPH) is good enough for me...

Let us know if you ever go that fast.

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http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/02/cq/investigation.html

From 1998

Posted below is only a part of the total article. I thought that was relavant to this thread. The link is provided so you can see for yourself.


This is a portion of an article (from back a ways) that clearly shows all of this is nothing new. Not making excused but some on this site would like to make this a one side of the isle problem only. When in reality, one side just gets more press



The Culture of Congress
Some Capitol Hill insiders say the ethos of Congress is what drives the eros of Congress.

Lawmakers who come to Washington leave their friends, and often their families, back home. Twelve-hour days are not uncommon when the House and Senate are in session. The schedule is often just as hectic during recess, when members return to their states to face schedules jammed with meetings, speeches and fundraising events.

"There is a culture in this town of a marked absence of fidelity," said a Democratic aide. "It's like a college campus in that almost everyone is full-time in a small geographic area. This becomes not only their workplace but their social place. Barriers between work and social life begin to erode."

For many years, the male-dominated institution operated like an exclusive men's club where sexual dalliances were overlooked. But as society has recognized sexual harassment and as more women have entered Congress, lawmakers have tried to adapt.

In 1995, lawmakers voted to bring Congress under the same federal labor and anti-discrimination laws, including protections against sexual harassment, that applied to U.S. businesses.

Congressional employees are now allowed to bring such claims to court after mediation and counseling. The Office of Compliance does not discuss specific complaints, but an official at the office said she knew of no court claims.

In the unlikely event that the burgeoning scandal forces Congress to move on impeaching the president, some lawmakers who sit in judgment could face uncomfortable scrutiny of their own wanton behavior, dissolved marriages and personal reputations.

That occurred in 1991 as the Senate Judiciary Committee dealt with Hill's accusations against Thomas. The stony silence of one of the panel's senior members, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., was attributed to fears that a reaction would serve as a reminder of the Kennedy family's own foibles.

In addition to the senator's own problems surrounding the 1969 drowning death of Mary Jo Kopechne in Chappaquiddick, Mass., one of Kennedy's nephews was embroiled in a high-profile sex scandal: William Kennedy Smith was acquitted of raping a Florida woman in 1991.

If Congress passes judgment on the president's misdeeds, it could also face criticism that in the past it has not meted out tough enough punishment when members go astray.

In 1976, Rep. Wayne L. Hays, D-Ohio (1949-76), allegedly put his mistress, Elizabeth Ray, on the payroll even though she admitted she lacked any secretarial skills. Hays, the powerful chairman of the House Administration Committee and chairman of the then-Democratic National Congressional Committee, was forced to resign from Congress.

Wilbur Mills, D-Ark. (1939-77), chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, had a publicized affair with striptease dancer Fanne Fox. In December 1974, Mills resigned his chairmanship, sought treatment for alcoholism and announced he would not seek re-election in 1976.

Also in 1976, several House members were embroiled in scandal. An aide to John Young, D-Texas (1957-79), said she was kept on his payroll primarily to have sex with him. Joe D. Waggonner Jr., D-La. (1961-79), was arrested and released on charges of soliciting a police decoy posing as a prostitute. Allan T. Howe, D-Utah (1975-77), was convicted for soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. The House took no action.

That kind of tolerance for sexual misdeeds began to change in the 1980s as Congress started recommending stronger punishment for untoward conduct. The House censured Daniel B. Crane, R-Ill. (1979-85), and Gerry E. Studds, D-Mass. (1973-97), in 1983 for sexual misconduct with teenage pages. Crane had sex with a 17-year-old female page, and Studds had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old male page, who may have been 16 when the affair began.

The House ethics committee had recommended a reprimand for the two, the least severe form of punishment the House can impose. But after an outcry that the penalty was too mild, the punishment was upgraded to a censure on the House floor.

In October 1989, the House ethics committee sent a letter of reproval to Rep. Jim Bates, D-Calif. (1983-91), for sexually harassing women on his staff.

That year, the Senate denied the Cabinet post of Defense secretary to former Sen. John G. Tower, R-Texas (1961-85), who faced allegations of womanizing.

In 1990, an ethics investigation of Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., led to a reprimand for his relationship with a male prostitute.

Faced with allegations of sexual misconduct, including reports that he had fondled a Capitol elevator operator, Republican Rep. Donald E. "Buz" Lukens of Ohio resigned from Congress in 1990.

With that history, lawmakers acknowledge that lashing out now would open some to charges of hypocrisy.

"The great teacher suggested we all are sinners. We all have sinned," said Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga. "Those without sin cast the first stone. None of us are perfect, even members of Congress."

© 1998 Congressional Quarterly Inc. All rights reserved.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Adrenaline from going REALLLLY fast ( 300MPH) is good enough for me...

Let us know if you ever go that fast.

You dont know who Amazon is do you


LOVE YA DD

You are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky)
My Life ROCKS!
How's yours doing?

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If you were a skydiver you would know that I have.

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If you were a skydiver you would know that I have.

Have what? Surpassed 300 MPH in a freefall?

I call bullshit!!!

Prove me wrong.

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Have what? Surpassed 300 MPH in a freefall?

I call bullshit!!!

Come on.. with your internet stalking skills you should be able to find it...

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>I call bullshit!!!

You can call it, but you'd be wrong. Jeanie has gotten pretty good at speed skydiving.

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Have what? Surpassed 300 MPH in a freefall?

I call bullshit!!!

Come on.. with your internet stalking skills you should be able to find it...

Oh, you want me to show that you've over-inflated your undeniably impressive accomplishments?

Did you know that 371 Kilometers per hour is about 230 MPH... which is a good deal slower than 300 MPH?

Did you know that?

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That is an official speed in an FAI sanctioned event... if you found the site with the American Records... then you can find the RULZ we jump by.. I have had out of bounds jumps that are far faster.


When your Pro-Track starts reading 270 to 280 MPH average for an entire dive.. you are starrting to "get it"

In training jumps I have exceeded that quite a few times.. I also learned the hard way what happens when you do not slow down enough before you deploy...

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Hey do you ever get sick of people picking on you for the stupidest shit ever?
What does your speed record have to do with the topic?


I have a dude in a bonfire thread telling me that I am not depressed enough to understand suicidal thoughts. Or I am not depressed long enough.

It would be great if people kept their issues on the thread and topic at hand. I understand getting off topic a bit but to get personal is just plain stupid and to me it shows you have no facts to back up your argument so you have to use these tactics.

I have to say I am not surprised these people tend to support the same kind of politics as well.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Hey do you ever get sick of people picking on you for the stupidest shit ever?
What does your speed record have to do with the topic?

I have a dude in a bonfire thread telling me that I am not depressed enough to understand suicidal thoughts. Or I am not depressed long enough.

It would be great if people kept their issues on the thread and topic at hand. I understand getting off topic a bit but to get personal is just plain stupid and to me it shows you have no facts to back up your argument so you have to use these tactics.

I have to say I am not surprised these people tend to support the same kind of politics as well.

Does this have anything to do with the OP?

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I love it when a wuffo thinks you cant go any faster than 120 MPH....

or over 300 MPH... he has not jumped with me...... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not too many speedskyving tandems available out there

This is one of our more vociferous right wing posters... and I expect nothing less from that quarter of the electorate. Aint stalkers fun

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I love it when a wuffo thinks you cant go any faster than 120 MPH....

or over 300 MPH... he has not jumped with me...... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Not too many speedskyving tandems available out there

This is one of our more vociferous right wing posters... and I expect nothing less from that quarter of the electorate. Aint stalkers fun

How interesting that you'd post this in response to:

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I understand getting off topic a bit but to get personal is just plain stupid and to me it shows you have no facts to back up your argument so you have to use these tactics.

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Statement of fact there my vociferous right wing detractor.

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Statement of fact there my vociferous right wing detractor.

That I think "you cant go any faster than 120 MPH"? Or were you not talking about me?

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This is one of our more vociferous right wing posters... and I expect nothing less from that quarter of the electorate. Aint stalkers fun

It cracks me up. Sometime I want to make a post about pie just to see if John will say something stupid as usual about how pies are not funny and make his best effort to make it political and say something negative about Muslims.

Some people girl are just lost.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Congress is a perfect example of Acton's law: Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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I was completely amused by his LIST.. what did I tell you 20 to 30 year old stuff....just as I expected.

But yes.... too many of our politicians cant seem to step away from the temptations... no matter WHAT party they are in.

A great many others do manage to avoid the temptations .. not because its against the law or against ethics.... but because they KNOW the difference between what is right and wrong and they do the right thing.

But for a group of politicians... who campained on being different and moral and god fearing... they certainly have been morally bankrupt and ethically challenged and criminally guilty in record numbers....just trying to point out the obvious to those of you who seem to call yourselves libertarians yet staunchly defend so many of these republican scumbags.

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Congress is a perfect example of Acton's law: Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Ya, and add the the "guess who now" catagory as this one it.
Now we have another election cycle and with it comes another campain finace fraud story with our two favorite heros, the Clinton and the Chineese.

Dam, it is going to be a long election year

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118826947048110677.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Good reasonj to eliminate "gifts" to all politicians...campaign finance reform.. its good for ALL of us...Candidates would be paid from a general fund.. all of them in a particular election would get the same... and NO lobbyists would be allowed either.

That would be the only way to clean up the system and have our politicians listen to WE THE PEOPLE.

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Have what? Surpassed 300 MPH in a freefall?

I call bullshit!!!

Come on.. with your internet stalking skills you should be able to find it...

Oh, you want me to show that you've over-inflated your undeniably impressive accomplishments?

Did you know that 371 Kilometers per hour is about 230 MPH... which is a good deal slower than 300 MPH?

Did you know that?

As usual, you have no idea...

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.