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While I have no problem pursuing your philosophy of fighting for you community and family personally.............I don't feel it's my child's responsibility and it's not right to put them in that position. You gotta choose your battles...........and your child should be your number one deciding factor. ps - by moving out of bear country you wouldn't get mauled by a bear.



Recent news headlines from your home town of Madison, Wisconsin:
Three people electrocuted

Tree falls on home

Sexual assault

Lightning kills golfer
It ain't safe there! Why would you intentionally put your children in harm's way like this?

Grab the kids and run for your lives!

P.S. To where will you run to avoid these dangers?

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While I have no problem pursuing your philosophy of fighting for you community and family personally.............I don't feel it's my child's responsibility and it's not right to put them in that position. You gotta choose your battles...........and your child should be your number one deciding factor. ps - by moving out of bear country you wouldn't get mauled by a bear.



Recent news headlines from your home town of Madison, Wisconsin:
Three people electrocuted

Tree falls on home

Sexual assault

Lightning kills golfer
It ain't safe there! Why would you intentionally put your children in harm's way like this?

Grab the kids and run for your lives!

P.S. To where will you run to avoid these dangers?




And your point is? Those things can happen anywhere............but you don't see bear maulings on the uprise do you? Storms would explain the tree falling on a house and dropping power lines down on the street. Are you more likely do run into a sexual assault case in a larger city or a smaller town? I wouldn't say madison is a small town, but when you compare it to chicago or milwaukee.....it's a small town.

Your argument is that dangers are everywhere..........and I agree with you on that. But you can minimize the amount of dangers that are in your area by choosing a good location. Things may change over time, but then it's time to relocate. If you wanna keep your kids around wild polar bears and leave them to fend for their own on the way to class then go ahead..........I'll make sure mine stay away from them, unless we're at the zoo.
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Your argument is that dangers are everywhere..........and I agree with you on that. But you can minimize the amount of dangers that are in your area by choosing a good location.



Eskimos have the dangers of polar bears. But they do not play golf in thunderstorms, don't have trees to fall on them, and don't have electricity to electrocute them. So who's in more danger?

Churchill, Manitoba, the "Polar Bear Capital of the World," was established in 1717. Since that time, only two townspeople have ever been killed by polar bears, despite numerous encounters.

So who the heck are you to judge their risks, and to tell them to move elsewhere?

If the eskimos could see the lifestyle you live, with cars whizzing down the roads at 70 mph killing 40,000 people per year, the crime, and the illegal drugs, it would probably frighten the hell out of them. I imagine they feel much more safe on the ice with their polar bears.

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>Eskimos have the dangers of polar bears. But they do not play golf
>in thunderstorms, don't have trees to fall on them, and don't have
>electricity to electrocute them.

Yep. Why, just last week I was in an Indian casino here in California. Was tough to see without any power, of course, and getting in and out of all the teepees was a bit hard! Fortunately they loaned me a horse.

>I imagine they feel much more safe on the ice with their polar bears.

Well, at least as safe as you feel on your oil rig!

Edited to add: or perhaps a bit less safe . . .
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Inuit crash through ice to death as warming bites
Mon May 28, 2007 8:14PM EDT

BELIZE CITY (Reuters) - Global warming has made life more dangerous for Inuit hunters in the Arctic as they increasingly fall to their deaths through thinning ice sheets while pursuing seals and polar bears.

Delegates at a climate change conference in Belize said on Tuesday that many Inuit had died in recent years because their snow mobiles and sleds crash through the ice during hunts.

"My people have been hunting on the ice for 5,000 years but now you risk death around every turn," said Nicodemus Illauq, from the Inuit town of Clyde River in Canada.

Patricia Cochran, the head of an international Inuit council, said every Inuit in Alaska knew someone who had died by falling through the ice and drowning, although exact figures were hard to come by.
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Eskimos have the dangers of polar bears. But they do not play golf in thunderstorms, don't have trees to fall on them, and don't have electricity to electrocute them. So who's in more danger?



Acts of personal stupidity don't count as dangers on the population.............you play golf in a thunderstorm, that's your own fault.......you step off the bus when the water is up to the bumper and there's fallen powerlines in it, that's your own fault (in this case I really would not consider the kid at fault, but who's parents let them out in a storm like that....that's questionable)............you don't trim the old rotting tree that's overshadowing your house, that's your fault. Those things happen.......nature has a big hand up on us. And despite how safe we think we are, it's pretty easy for nature to show us who's boss.

But at the same time, as a parent you have a responsibility to your child to reduce those risks and keep them safe..........sending them out with a gun saying ok if you get attacked use this is one option. But at the same time, as I said previously.......there's a simpler solution, just move. I'm not saying that's your only option, but it is another option and it would be a lot easier on your child. And the most important thing in this picture is your child.
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.......there's a simpler solution, just move. I'm not saying that's your only option, but it is another option and it would be a lot easier on your child. And the most important thing in this picture is your child.


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I'm not disagreeing with all that you are saying, but you make it sound so easy, "to just move".

For many people picking up roots and moving is very difficult or at times really a stupid move. Not everyone has a good career field where they can just start over somewhere else.

Moving may mean placing your family on the welfare roles if you can't find another decent job. It may mean losing your house, or other investments because you no longer have a job. Perhaps you have never experienced any of this in your own life, so maybe it is hard to understand.

I once made my living working in the woods falling timber. I knew many men who were trapped in that profession. Timber falling is one of the most dangerous jobs around. In the winter you are up to your waist in snow. If something goes wrong you can't get out of the way because the snow is too deep. Several good friends were killed and crippled for life. I knew my turn was coming.

Why didn't I just move and live happily ever after. It was because I didn't want to pick up a minimum wage job in some bigger city. I hated bigger places back then. I could make good money risking my life in the woods. Jobs were hard to find in Montana, but the quality of life was great!

I knew many people who un wittenly built a trap for themselves. They were more or less trapped in a profession they hated. They could move, but they would lose their house, their pickup, and who knows what else.

When my first child was born I was still stuck in the woods. It took several more years, but I went to back to college where I got a degree. I now have an easy job in an office and make a good salary. I still live in Montana, a place that I love. Sure life isn't always easy here. Yes, there are a lot of bears.

I did most of that to provide a better life for my kids. I wanted them to grow up to know their old man rather than visit a grave yard.

I guess my point is that it was never quick and easy to find a better life just by moving to a new location.

Take the Inuit people. Possibly, if they could gather enough money, they might move to a place that is safer, such as Anchorage. Some have tried doing that.

There they find people who are more or less a lot different than anyone else they have ever known. Most everyone has different values and they find themselves not fitting in at all. They miss their family, their culture, and they soon find themselves on the poverty rolls in a big city. They may have nearly an impossible time finding work. So now their family is starving. All because they may have been afraid of the off chance a Polar Bear might eat their kids.

Again moving to a new location may be extremely difficult and possibly a stupid move. There are often times ways to overcome the dangers where you live. In bear country it might mean packing a gun just in case of the off chance of being attacked. To tell you the truth, I have never even seen a Grizzly Bear here in Montana (not counting Yellowstone Park). I've seen their tracks in the Bob Marshal. I usually pack a gun of some sort though. There is always the chance of a bear or mountain lion encounter, in some of the Wilderness Areas I frequent. No, I'm not about to move any time soon!.

I'm getting really wind here, but one last point. I would be willing to bet there are not a lot of kids packing guns for Polar Bears. Younger kids are probably being closely supervised by adults who may be packing a weapon. Or maybe an older teenager is the one with the gun. I doubt seriously if any caring parent is going to put their child in that much risk. This is probably just some sensationalism played upon by the news media....Steve1

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I'm not saying it would be easy, as I said things may be difficult for a while....but you can make it happen. Like I said, it's not the only option. But which would be easier on your child, moving or shooting at a charging polar bear? I would hope the younger kids were being escorted by adults....then again the problem may not big that big either.
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>Yep. Why, just last week I was in an Indian casino here in California. Was tough to see without any power, of course, and getting in and out of all the teepees was a bit hard! .........

BELIZE CITY (Reuters) - Global warming has made life more dangerous ..........snow mobiles and sleds crash through the ice during hunts.



this is the greatest post in the history of mankind - in one short bit you successfully -

1 - Call JR a steroetyping bigot
2 - Bring in your pet topic of global warming
3 - Put a recreational gas using vehicle in a bad light

classic

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

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