Is God/Allah/Jehovah insecure by nature?

[Skyrad 0]

So I was pondering the meaning of life this morning and came to the conclusion that the supreme being might be insecure or maybe he doesn't have an inate conscience.
I mean why would he make us
a) In his own image
b) To worship him?

Surely if he made the universe/universes and everything within it/them then why would he create us to worship him? Surely we're hardly significant in the big scheme of things. So if he needs our praise and worship then surely that would make him pretty insecure.
If worshiping him isn't the point then maybe we're here for another reason. People always ask why does the maker let bad things happen? Well what if he hasn't got any sort of inate moral compass? Maybe thats why he made us, to guide him by mass conciousness, why else give us free will? What is the point of free will? Especially if you know already everything that can and will be? Does (choose a name of you belife) use our prayer to guide his decisions?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[funkcanna 0]

God is a DJ

To know requires proof
To believe requires evidence
To have faith requires neither.
If you stick with that, we'll never be confused again

[Skyrad 0]

He is?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[JackC 0]

I just put it down to low quality script writers.

[shropshire 0]

If I knew that I didn't exist... I'd be pretty damned insecure abou it, I can tell you

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Amazon 7]

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I just put it down to low quality script writers.

DING DING DING.... we have a winnner.

I put it down to those who wrote the books and THEIR innate need for control of people.

What is a better job... sitting on your butt and running the temple or church or mosque... and never having to do any actual work but thinking up ways to get those who do work to bring you food and support you in a lifestyle that you have become accustomed to.

You come up with some rituals and some dogma to support this... because many of the simple minded seem to like the entertainment value... so you put on weekly "shows".

You make up lots of rules that have a certain amount of sense at the time ( Eating shellfish 3000 years ago without the ability to tell if it had demoic acid poisoning or if it had spoiled in the middle eastern sun could get you very sick or dead very quickly).... that fits your need to control the masses and try to get them to live together.. On the other hand telling your followers that those EVIL PEOPLE over there do not worship god...in the proper way is a good way to expand your area of control by wiping out those EVIL DOERS who do not believe in your god the way that you do. This way you get more area to control... and more people to bring you the fruits of their labor.

When a disaster occurs.... which is a very common thing on our planet , you let the flock know they have been sinful... and have not prayed enough. to please GOD, not a planet just doing what a planet does. Soooooo its all their fault . All the wine and sex are evil so the people must be punished for their sins( Actually it’s the donations have gone down so this way you can get the masses to appease god with offerings to save themselves from his wrath…and your lifestyle maintains itself)

[Skyrad 0]

Ok, i see where you're coming from, but if we take it that God does exist then what was the point in him/her/it creating us?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Amazon 7]

Maybe he was just lonely and needed companionship.

[shropshire 0]

If that was the case, wouldn't she hang out with us a bit?

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[JackC 0]

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Ok, i see where you're coming from, but if we take it that God does exist then what was the point in him/her/it creating us?

Well, in the OT God was a right nutter, sending plagues, ordering rape and pillage and all manner of nasty things. Then in the NT he bacame all lovey dovey and peace and light, exept for when you're dead, then he tortures you for eternity. So quite obviously, God has paraniod schizophrenia. He knocked up a planet full of carbon based life forms to torture because the voices told him to.

[D22369 0]

Maybe he was just lonely and needed companionship.***

more like needing some rats to run through mazes.


Roy

They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it.

[Royd 0]

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not a planet just doing what a planet does. Soooooo its all their fault .

Can you say Al Gore and the global warming crowd?

[Channman 2]

Oh my acking butt, another one of these stupid slam another religion thread. Time to move on to something alittle more origional.

[Skyrad 0]

And which religion would that be?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Loonix 0]

I suppose he has narcissistic personality disorder...

* Requires excessive praise and admiration - Check
* Takes advantage of others - Check
* Grandiose sense of self-importance - Check
* Lack of empathy - Check (think starving kids in africa..)
* Lying, to self and others - Via his fanclub; Check
* Obsessed with fantasies of fame, power, or beauty - Check

It all seems quite clear to me.


He seems to be somewhat histrionic as well:

* Needs to be the center of attention - Check (first commandement, anyone?)
* Dresses or acts provocatively - Only really acted in the first testament, but that was somewhat provocatively, I'd say...
* Rapidly-shifting and shallow emotions - Not rapidly, but he sure changed alot when he became a father
* Exaggerates friendships - Don't know about that one
* Overly-dramatic, occassionally theatrical speech
easily influenced; highly suggestible - theatrical speech for sure!

[SpeedRacer 1]

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So if he needs our praise and worship then surely that would make him pretty insecure.

except that he doesn't need our praise/worship.

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[stevebabin 0]

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So if he needs our praise and worship then surely that would make him pretty insecure.

except that he doesn't need our praise/worship.

Because he doesn't exist....

"Science, logic and reason will fly you to the moon. Religion will fly you into buildings."
"Because figuring things out is always better than making shit up."

[Mockingbird 0]

"Insecurity" is only a human attribute. God is way above being insecure.

Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird
"Why is there something rather than nothing?"

[Skyrad 0]

But he made us in his likeness. Why would he invent a defect that wasn't already there?

When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy.
Lucius Annaeus Seneca

[Zenister 0]

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"Insecurity" is only a human attribute. God is way above being insecure.

so are Vengeful, Angry and Jealous... all very well illustrated by OT behavior of some Gods... some cultures are not above applying human emotions to divinity.

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[Mockingbird 0]

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But he made us in his likeness. Why would he invent a defect that wasn't already there?

True, God created man in His likeness, but that didn't make man equal to God.

When man chose to "do his own thing," regardless of God's wishes/rules/desires, fear entered his heart for the first time, and he hid from God. That scene has been replayed daily, by every person who has ever lived (except Jesus Christ). Fear results in insecurity. Which is why every person "puts up a front," never revealing who they really are, except (not always, but possibly) to their soulmates/closest friends. It's also why some fight against God... it gives them a feeling of empowerment.

Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird
"Why is there something rather than nothing?"

[Mockingbird 0]

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so are Vengeful, Angry and Jealous... all very well illustrated by OT behavior of some Gods... some cultures are not above applying human emotions to divinity.

Yes, vengeance, anger, jealousy are human attributes. Each one springs from fear/insecurity though. And I agree that God does possess similar emotions, but his anger/vengeance/jealousy (which mankind has not begun to experience) don't spring from fear; they are a result of His RIGHTNESS.

Blue skies & happy jitters ~Mockingbird
"Why is there something rather than nothing?"