Nope, the 'surge' sure isn't working, is it?

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Illegal? Ill-advised, I'll give you - illegal, no.

Nazis, ill-advised.

In the Court of the Real World, wars aren't illegal...unless you lose. Then you get slammed, like Iraq in 1991.

The only ill-advised bit for the Nazis was breaking that truce with Russia. Otherwise who knows how long the Third Reich would have lasted before corruption ate away the foundation?

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How is the reconstruction going? 117F there the other day and most of Baghdad was without power for the day, and even worse they had no running water for 7 hours. From what I read in the news it was from a failed infrastructure and not insurgent related.

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How is the reconstruction going? 117F there the other day and most of Baghdad was without power for the day, and even worse they had no running water for 7 hours. From what I read in the news it was from a failed infrastructure and not insurgent related.

I guess the Filipino slavery thing isn't working out so well.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2199263.ece
http://youtube.com/watch?v=evRPwwyno_c

I, know, this is just piling on but it's a chance to post something that I didn't post a couple of weeks ago.

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How is the reconstruction going? 117F there the other day and most of Baghdad was without power for the day, and even worse they had no running water for 7 hours. From what I read in the news it was from a failed infrastructure and not insurgent related.

I guess the Filipino slavery thing isn't working out so well.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article2199263.ece
http://youtube.com/watch?v=evRPwwyno_c

I, know, this is just piling on but it's a chance to post something that I didn't post a couple of weeks ago.

Now you know what it takes to win the lowest bid contracts with our military and government.

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Kind of a Third World method of conscription, eh?

Brilliant!

I guess I am just sort of old school when it comes to WAR...

You start it..you support it.. you can go and fight it too... and make sure your kids get to go as well so they can grow up to be good little warmongers too and keep it all in the family.

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So much for your current "surge is working" theory . . .

This just in;

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Dozens killed in suicide attacks in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- At least 100 people were killed and dozens were hurt in three separate suicide bombings in northern Iraq, police said Tuesday.

Three bombers detonated three trucks laden with explosives in three locations around 8 p.m., officials said.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/08/14/iraq.main/index.html

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[ChasingBlueSky 0]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20250066/

Over 200 from several attacks all around the same time. :/

This is also an area where 'surge' troops had been sent.

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20250066/

Over 200 from several attacks all around the same time. :/

This is also an area where 'surge' troops had been sent.

As predicted by Petraius.

They only way they can win over there is with this type of action to sway you and yours over here.

Facts out today state that IED bombings are down 52% and death incidents are down 70 + %.

Go cherry picking. You can stain your fingers

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Go cherry picking. You can stain your fingers

You're right Rush, I obviously CHERRY PICKED this right out of today's headlines within the last couple of hours.

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Go cherry picking. You can stain your fingers

You're right Rush, I obviously CHERRY PICKED this right out of today's headlines within the last couple of hours.

At least you admit it


pick pick pick pick

But, that is what your favorite news sources do so I should not be surprised

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I really want you to understand this so read it carefully.

It's THE headline on every major news source right this moment with the exception of FoxNews and Drudge.

What does that tell you?

http://www.bbc.co.uk
http://www.reuters.com/
http://news.yahoo.com/

I know what it tells me.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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I really want you to understand this so read it carefully.

It's THE headline on every major news source right this moment with the exception of FoxNews and Drudge.

What does that tell you?

http://www.bbc.co.uk
http://www.reuters.com/
http://news.yahoo.com/

I know what it tells me.

I never said it was not a major headline. My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region to help you feel better about your position. The MAJOR story coming from dam dear all news sources is the surge is, at present working. You going to post any of that?? I thought not................Sorry to burst your bubble


pick pick pick .............

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Go cherry picking. You can stain your fingers

choosing truck-bomings as a single indicator is cherry picking as well

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region

My thoughts are those family connected to those that died today don't find it minor nor believe the surge was working for them.

Cherry Picking? If that's what you want to call it. But then again, who is putting out the numbers that this surge is working? With everything else that is failing in the middle east due to this war, wouldn't the OP be cherry picking as well? POV is a bitch.

Do what I do - set up RSS feeds that cover any story related to this topic. It's insteresting to see what comes out from where. It's also interesting to see who skips what.

At the end of the day, however, there are at least 175 dead people over there. That is what really matters.

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My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region

My thoughts are those family connected to those that died today don't find it minor nor believe the surge was working for them.Out of context BS. Shame on you

Cherry Picking? If that's what you want to call it. But then again, who is putting out the numbers that this surge is working? With everything else that is failing in the middle east due to this war, wouldn't the OP be cherry picking as well? POV is a bitch.It is either working or it is not. Sorry, but it is working at this time. Acept it

Do what I do - set up RSS feeds that cover any story related to this topic. It's insteresting to see what comes out from where. It's also interesting to see who skips what.You talk here about skipping. I guess the truth is ok to skip if it supports your world view template

At the end of the day, however, there are at least 175 dead people over there. That is what really matters.

Yep, 175 people that were killed by those not of thier own country and not by anyone from the US. they have been killed by those whos power structure can not afford for the US or any country that is helping the local population of that reigion be free. Sad you appose a people being free

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I never said it was not a major headline. My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region to help you feel better about your position. The MAJOR story coming from dam dear all news sources is the surge is, at present working. You going to post any of that?? I thought not................Sorry to burst your bubble

It's a major story in Oakland and San Francisco that they each have 100 homicides on the year. How is that many people being blown up in one day not a major story?

If the success of the surge is to focus the opposition into fewer more massive attacks, is that success? Forget the number of car bombings - how many US soldiers are dying every week now? Being a selfish American, I'm really most interested in that. I value the soldiers much more than I do the Iraqis.

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Sad you appose a people being free

Other than your obvious attempt at trolling with such statement, how did the poster state his opposition to freedom?
And in the same vein, should he "trollingly" claim that your post acclaims the death of people who had the privilege not to be killed by Allied troops or Iraqis?

I call troll!

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

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Sad you appose a people being free

Other than your obvious attempt at trolling with such statement, how did the poster state his opposition to freedom?
And in the same vein, should he "trollingly" claim that your post acclaims the death of people who had the privilege not to be killed by Allied troops or Iraqis?

I call troll!

You are absolutly right calling my statement a trolling statement. That is exactly how I meant it. I threw back what I got

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region . . .

Of course. Why are they talking about 100 people dying when they could be talking about a new transformer being installed somewhere in Fallujah? After all, if 100 people you knew were killed in the US, you wouldn't care - as long as someone put a new traffic light in somewhere. Right?

Unless, of course, you cherry-picked the story about 100 americans dying, like all those loser liberal media types who reported on that stupid 9/11 event - instead of talking about all the buildings that DIDN'T get knocked down in the US that day. But you would never do that.

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I never said it was not a major headline. My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region to help you feel better about your position. The MAJOR story coming from dam dear all news sources is the surge is, at present working. You going to post any of that?? I thought not................Sorry to burst your bubble

It's a major story in Oakland and San Francisco that they each have 100 homicides on the year. How is that many people being blown up in one day not a major story?

If the success of the surge is to focus the opposition into fewer more massive attacks, is that success? Forget the number of car bombings - how many US soldiers are dying every week now? Being a selfish American, I'm really most interested in that. I value the soldiers much more than I do the Iraqis.

I value them too. I also value this country, its safety and its security. All of these are being valued by our presense in Iraq.

the increase of the size was perdicted. But even with this the total numbers of these attacks are markedly lower. But that does matter. Only the spectacular soundbites do. Not the trend.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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>My point is more that you will post the "minor" story coming from the region . . .

Of course. Why are they talking about 100 people dying when they could be talking about a new transformer being installed somewhere in Fallujah? After all, if 100 people you knew were killed in the US, you wouldn't care - as long as someone put a new traffic light in somewhere. Right?

Unless, of course, you cherry-picked the story about 100 americans dying, like all those loser liberal media types who reported on that stupid 9/11 event - instead of talking about all the buildings that DIDN'T get knocked down in the US that day. But you would never do that.

Your analogies make so little sense to me anymore I dont even try so, claim the win and keep on trucking

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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You are absolutly right calling my statement a trolling statement. That is exactly how I meant it. I threw back what I got

Remember my comment on be careful what you read and how the OP may be just posting fluff....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/13/AR2006021301897.html

But I'm sure someone will call out something about the leftist agenda in regards to this topic. The Surge must be working, if you were to believe the OP.....and of course the US is safer from terroism since we haven't seen the Threat Level raised in ages (the last election??)

You have to wonder if those in the Bush administration will one day see their mistakes in hindsite like Atwater did.....and apologize to the nation.

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From USA Today.

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By Jim Michaels, USA TODAY
The number of truck bombs and other large al-Qaeda-style attacks in Iraq have declined nearly 50% since the United States started increasing troop levels in Iraq about six months ago, according to the U.S. military command in Iraq.

Yep, the surge is going great.

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I dont even try so, claim the win and keep on trucking

you and your leader have that in common....

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>I dont even try so, claim the win and keep on trucking

Good for you! Shut down that ol' critical thinking stuff and keep reading Newsmax and FOX. Do whatever it takes to keep from trying. The world is surely simpler that way.