ErricoMalatesta 0 #26 August 13, 2007 QuoteComplete garbage, and, while I realise it would be like sacriledge for you to alter one of those C&P jobs from the source that you so idolise (isn't there a commandment about that somewhere?) it's also pretty fucking disingenuous of you to run with the headline "BBC NEWS" on top of that piece of junk journalism from AiG. You couldn't tell the first time the term "evolutionist" instead of "the entire scientific community and everyone who isn't a fucking idiot" appeared? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #27 August 13, 2007 Quote Quote Complete garbage, and, while I realise it would be like sacriledge for you to alter one of those C&P jobs from the source that you so idolise (isn't there a commandment about that somewhere?) it's also pretty fucking disingenuous of you to run with the headline "BBC NEWS" on top of that piece of junk journalism from AiG. You couldn't tell the first time the term "evolutionist" instead of "the entire scientific community and everyone who isn't a fucking idiot" appeared? That was the give awayDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 August 13, 2007 Quote clicky But... but how can this be? The Earth is only 6 - 10 thousand years old....... Isn't it? Finding older fossils really doesn't kill the religious representation. They can either say that the 6000 year bit shouldn't be taken literally, or that the creation of the universe included these artifacts, possibly as tests of faith. You can't disprove that god created fossils, so other than trying to get a rise out of the literalists, what's the point in arguing it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #29 August 13, 2007 But... but .... but .... That's exactly the pointThere's only a couple of reasons for posting here... To light a blue touch paper & To watch the pretty coloured sparks afterwards. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #30 August 13, 2007 I think the following quote sums up the name of the game. Quote‘Research on the origin of life seems to be unique in that the conclusion has already been authoritatively accepted … . What remains to be done is to find the scenarios which describe the detailed mechanisms and processes by which this happened. One must conclude that, contrary to the established and current wisdom a scenario describing the genesis of life on earth by chance and natural causes which can be accepted on the basis of fact and not faith has not yet been written.' Yockey, H.P., A calculation of the probability of spontaneous biogenesis by information theory, Journal of Theoretical Biology, 67:377–398, 1977; quotes from pp. 379, 396. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #31 August 13, 2007 >One must conclude that, contrary to the established and current wisdom >a scenario describing the genesis of life on earth by chance and natural >causes which can be accepted on the basis of fact and not faith has not yet >been written. This is a false statement on "the established and current wisdom." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #32 August 13, 2007 Yockey is an interesting one. He seems to agree with and promote the theory of evolution via his own writings, but is critical of the theories of the origins of life. i believe he is Christian from his writing, however it isn't made clear. I think he is of the "god (or a supernatural being/ alien intervention/ meteor strike with living matter) created the conditions for life and set evolution in motion to get us to where we are today" school of thought.Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #33 August 13, 2007 QuoteI think the following quote sums up the name of the game. Quote‘Research on the origin of life seems to be unique in that the conclusion has already been authoritatively accepted … . What remains to be done is to find the scenarios which describe the detailed mechanisms and processes by which this happened. One must conclude that, contrary to the established and current wisdom a scenario describing the genesis of life on earth by chance and natural causes which can be accepted on the basis of fact and not faith has not yet been written.' Yockey, H.P., A calculation of the probability of spontaneous biogenesis by information theory, Journal of Theoretical Biology, 67:377–398, 1977; quotes from pp. 379, 396. The problem with these notions of improbability being proof is that you only need it to happen once. Since we're here, it did. It could be a billion to one chance and still happen on the first trial. Quick - what's the probability of what's week's super lotto numbers happening? Since it is a past event, the probability = 1. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites