SkyPiggie 0 #1 August 7, 2007 News: Quote Terrorists who had planned to detonate gel-based explosives on U.S.-bound flights from London last August would have achieved mass devastation, according to new information from Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff in an exclusive interview with ABC News. "I think that the plot, in terms of its intent, was looking at devastation on a scale that would have rivaled 9/11," Chertoff told ABC's Pierre Thomas. "If they had succeeded in bringing liquid explosives on seven or eight aircraft, there could have been thousands of lives lost and an enormous economic impact with devastating consequences for international air travel."... Full story: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=3451976&page=1 You have to get way done into the article to find out who was responsible for this evil plot: "suspects were picked up, including 24 British-born Muslims and seven Pakistanis.". The poll question is related to the recent comment by Newt Gingrich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #2 August 7, 2007 I think Newt's point was about how we are addressing the problem, not whether or not the problem is real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #3 August 7, 2007 Quote The poll question is related to the recent comment by Newt Gingrich. How is it related? Newt said that the War on Terror was phony (meaning: shoddily managed), not that terrorism itself is phony. . Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 August 7, 2007 Terrorism is real surely there can be no doubt about that. It's been around for a very long time... it certainly did not start at 119. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,088 #5 August 7, 2007 Terrorism is real. The "war on terror" (specifically our current military adventure) is not an effective way to fight it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brittentay 0 #6 August 7, 2007 Quote Terrorism is real. The "war on terror" (specifically our current military adventure) is not an effective way to fight it. this cannot be said enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squarecanopy 0 #7 August 7, 2007 Quote Quote Terrorism is real. The "war on terror" (specifically our current military adventure) is not an effective way to fight it. this cannot be said enough. BUT WE SHOULD TRY! Just burning a hole in the sky..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,569 #8 August 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Terrorism is real. The "war on terror" (specifically our current military adventure) is not an effective way to fight it. this cannot be said enough. BUT WE SHOULD TRY! Of course "trying" does not equal blindly continuing with a strategy shown to be ineffective or even counterproductive.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 August 8, 2007 Quote Of course "trying" does not equal blindly continuing with a strategy shown to be ineffective or even counterproductive. Of course it does... the Decider says so... and all his good little minions will believe it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #10 August 8, 2007 Quote ***Terrorists who had planned to detonate gel-based explosives on U.S.-bound flights from London last August would have achieved mass devastation, according to new information from Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff in an exclusive interview with ABC News. whoa - there goes the bullshit detector. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #11 August 8, 2007 Quote Terrorism is real. The "war on terror" (specifically our current military adventure) is not an effective way to fight it. I don't necessarily rest any more easily knowing the TSA "has our back" either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 August 8, 2007 Quote gel-based explosives So, what kind of gel is this that can be created from common drug store products, that will explode when an electric current is run through it? I can't believe that three people have actually voted that terrorism is "phoney". I guess these are the conspiracy theorists that believe that our own government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. But even then, wouldn't that still be "terrorism", but just from a different source? Explain yourselves, phoney-voters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
algboy 0 #13 August 8, 2007 Quote Quote gel-based explosives So, what kind of gel is this that can be created from common drug store products, that will explode when an electric current is run through it? I can't believe that three people have actually voted that terrorism is "phoney". I guess these are the conspiracy theorists that believe that our own government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. But even then, wouldn't that still be "terrorism", but just from a different source? Explain yourselves, phoney-voters. I confess--I voted "phony". Why? Just to be a DickHead because the poll is a complete non sequitur (like so many on-line polls). The question doesn't correspond to the answers offered! What does the fact that the powers-that-be are trying to flog a long dead horse (read: liquid bomb plot) have to do with whether terrorism is "real"? Of course terrorism is real. It's been around for centuries. But isn't that material for another thread? The truth about binary/liquid explosives is that a bunch of numbnut government types have been watching too many McGuyver re-runs and hoping that all the J6Pers out there have been watching the same crap. The explosive we're supposed to believe that the Keystone Cop terrorists we're supposedly trying to make to supposedly blow up airliners with is TATP (triacetone triperoxide). It requires concentrated hydrogen peroxide, acetone and sulfuric acid to make. [If you can buy sulfuric acid and concentrated H2O2 at your corner drugstore, you live in a much more interesting neighborhood than I do! ] Not to mention a bunch of ice, a good venting hood, plenty of time, etc . . . Hopefully none of the flightcrew would notice all those nasty fumes coming from under the bathroom door and how many hours Ahmed's been in there. Ohhhhh-nooooooooooo. BTW: Here's the real kicker. The so-called UK "terrorists" had never actually made a bomb, none had purchased a plane ticket and only a handful even owned a passport. Pretty much behind the curve weren't they? So, the dutiful TSA still makes us forego liquids to get onto commercial aircraft -- for a bogus propaganda stunt gone belly up. Doncha feel so much safer taking off your shoes, dumping your water bottles, drinking your baby's breast milk and watching your wife get groped by some semi-literate er, TSA security professional? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChasingBlueSky 0 #14 August 8, 2007 Quote News: You have to get way done into the article to find out who was responsible for this evil plot: "suspects were picked up, including 24 British-born Muslims and seven Pakistanis.". I didn't read the article but have to wonder how many went to Iraq or Afghan to train. That is one of the popular theories being tossed around these days afterall._________________________________________ you can burn the land and boil the sea, but you can't take the sky from me.... I WILL fly again..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #15 August 9, 2007 The question is stupid. Of course terrorism is real but its far from just perpatrated by Muslims. Did you know that yesterday Police in Northern Ireland recovered four hundered pounds of home made explosive from a bomb making factory? NO? Well no fucking suprise there seeing as the Terrorists weren't Muslim no one gives a shit.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
