skydyvr 0 #151 August 17, 2007 QuoteA little less than half as often as the Neo Con label gets bandied about and a little more than Chicken Hawk gets used. You left out "ULTRA RIGHTIE", my personal favorite. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #152 August 17, 2007 Hey I might as well do a preemptive Clinton got a blow job because I know it will be forthcoming from you as an apology for something the right is trying to apologize for yet again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #153 August 17, 2007 Ah I see the rooster is speaking Cockledoodledoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #154 August 17, 2007 cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo cockledoodledoo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #155 August 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteA little less than half as often as the Neo Con label gets bandied about and a little more than Chicken Hawk gets used. You left out "ULTRA RIGHTIE", my personal favorite. There's also "Lush Rimjob" and "Denier", not to mention the numerous Hitler/Nazi analogies. That old premise that the righties are the close-minded bigots (read: prone to use dishonest stereotypes) and the lefties are open-minded and tolerant of differing viewpoints is looking more and more like so much tripe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #156 August 17, 2007 Quote. . . I know it will be forthcoming from you as an apology for something the right is trying to apologize for yet again. I've never mentioned Clinton's blow job EVER on these forums. Your imagination is extremely vivid -- I'm sure it makes up for the lack of credibility 10x. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #157 August 17, 2007 Quote Hey I might as well do a preemptive Clinton got a blow job because I know it will be forthcoming from you as an apology for something the right is trying to apologize for yet again. Oh I almost forgot about a new favorite, that's gaining steam fast... APOLOGIST! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #158 August 17, 2007 Why is it that YOU.. and NCCLIMBER.... take a rhetorical you right wingers..... and OWN the labels....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA All that guilt must really SUCK since some seem to wear it so well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #159 August 17, 2007 Quote APOLOGIST! A mind is a terrible thing . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #160 August 17, 2007 Now if you meant "rightwinger" literally, that would be offensive. By the way, just because prejudicial stereotypes are used against someone outside of an off-limits "underclass" group, their use are still displays of bigotry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #161 August 17, 2007 QuoteI've never mentioned Clinton's blow job EVER on these forums. You just did... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #162 August 17, 2007 Quote. . . just because prejudicial stereotypes are used against someone outside of an off-limits "underclass" group, their use are still displays of bigotry. Excellent point. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #163 August 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteI've never mentioned Clinton's blow job EVER on these forums. You just did... Brilliant observation . . . . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #164 August 17, 2007 Quote Quote >I can't help thinking you're just trolling. And your exceptional facility for intentional misunderstanding has been honed to a razor's edge, lately. Bravo, sir! Putting the onus on another for one of your pet ploys. Well played. How convenient that you didn't address any of my points about the actual topic we were discussing. What happened? Did you finally realize that you were completely wrong? no, this time, he's dead on. I'm not sure what your story is today. I thought you were a defender of civil rights but I can't tell what your argument is today, other than to argue with bill. Friday is too close to the weekend to waste time on that kind of BS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sv3n 0 #165 August 17, 2007 Quote Friday is too close to the weekend to waste time on that kind of BS. Right on.........better things to think about, like jumping out of airplanes. ...and you're in violation of your face! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #166 August 17, 2007 Quote no, this time, he's dead on. Maybe on Monday you can explain which God-given rights are "codified in our constitution and bill of rights".I'm all for the Constitution, but I don't think there's any mention of (or reference to) God-given rights in that document. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #167 August 17, 2007 Quote Quote I refer you back to the comment about how, when the Dems lose it MUST be vote fraud. That pretty much says it all right there. Go back and look at all the state laws that the Dems broke (or tried to break) during the whole process. Several have been mentioned in this thread. SO I guess you are ok with all the voting irregularities that c aused THOUSANDS of people to be disenfranchised.... or is it only REPUBLICAN votes that really countI guess as long as you win by any means possible... keeping people who you feel to be likely to vote for the WRONG party away from polling places... and machine "glitches" when the machines manufacturer promises you a win.... that is just ok so long as you win. ...to follow your lead.... BBBBBBWWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #168 August 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteI wonder why we don't hear much about the 2006 election. The general mood among conservatives was "OUCH", "That really sucked"... "Okay, let's move on". You mean 2004? There's people that argue that too. Here you go.....http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen Here's some more interesting reading material for you regarding 2006 and before.........http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0610/S00377.htm But anyways....we're on to voting machines and opinions on electronic voting. You know, I agree with some of your points about the new voting machines. There must be tracking. Pure electronic is too open for hanky panky"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #169 August 18, 2007 QuoteAnd that's how democracy should work.......the leadership takes the vote of the people and does it's will. That could be a wee bit inneficient. Our taxes pay our leaders to make some decisions on our behalf. That is their job, to lead By virtue of voting for him (on whatever issues he promoted during his campaign) we have already implicitly voted on the issues. Referendums should be reserved for when they are absolutely neccessary. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #170 August 18, 2007 Quote Friday is too close to the weekend to waste time on that kind of BS. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Right on.........better things to think about, like jumping out of airplanes. All too true... for those of us who actually jump out of airplanes at least Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #171 August 20, 2007 I'm not confusing anything. As an historian by education and avocation, I read the words of the various Founding Fathers and not just the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Read what these gentlemen had to say about arms, the right to keep and bear arms, the Creator, etc and you will understand."A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #172 August 20, 2007 QuoteI'm not confusing anything. As an historian by education and avocation, I read the words of the various Founding Fathers and not just the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. Read what these gentlemen had to say about arms, the right to keep and bear arms, the Creator, etc and you will understand. How about you providing a link??? I'd like to read where the drafters of the Constitution asserted that our Second Amendment rights are God-given. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #173 August 20, 2007 http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff0100.htm "[These are] the rights which God and the laws have given equally and independently to all." --Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. ME 1:185, Papers 1:121 http://www.lonang.com/foundation/2/f21.htm http://www.guncite.com/journals/vandhist.html This should do for starters as there is much to read. You must also understand the definition of "unalienable rights" and "natural rights""A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #174 August 20, 2007 Quotehttp://www.guncite.com/journals/vandhist.html This should do for starters as there is much to read. You must also understand the definition of "unalienable rights" and "natural rights" I scanned the link from guncite and found nothing about the 2nd Amendment being about a God-given right. Perhaps you could quote a relevant excerpt. On a different note, I did read: QuoteGeorge Washington once suggested, "Individuals entering into society, must give up a share of liberty to preserve the rest." This little nugget kind of runs counter to the frequent retort about "Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #175 August 20, 2007 There is a lot in the various links but here are a few: "The evidence of [the] natural right [of expatriation], like that of our right to life, liberty, the use of our faculties, the pursuit of happiness, is not left to the feeble and sophistical investigations of reason, but is impressed on the sense of every man. We do not claim these under the charters of kings or legislators, but under the King of Kings." --Thomas Jefferson to John Manners, 1817. ME 15:124 "Can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" --Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Virginia Q.XVIII, 1782. ME 2:227 The Right to Bear Arms In a nation governed by the people themselves, the possession of arms to defend their nation against usurpers within and without was deemed absolutely necessary. This right is protected by the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. A gun was an everyday implement in early American society, and Jefferson recommended its use. "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785. ME 5:85, Papers 8:407 "The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824. ME 16:45 "One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them." --Thomas Jefferson to George Washington, 1796. ME 9:341 "I learn with great concern that [one] portion of our frontier so interesting, so important, and so exposed, should be so entirely unprovided with common fire-arms. I did not suppose any part of the United States so destitute of what is considered as among the first necessaries of a farm-house." --Thomas Jefferson to Jacob J. Brown, 1808. ME 11:432 "No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms (within his own lands or tenements)." --Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution (with his note added), 1776. Papers 1:353 "None but an armed nation can dispense with a standing army. To keep ours armed and disciplined is therefore at all times important." --Thomas Jefferson to -----, 1803. ME 10:365"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
