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Quoteyou mean now ...or when you asked??? This shit is moving, ya know.
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QuoteI'm just me... just a part of this world doing the best I can to be the best person I know how to be. The only time I feel even remotely spiritual is when I get away from other people, go hiking and exploring and get to be a part of nature.
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QuoteYes, some go in that direction also. What question did you ask that moved you away from God?
QuoteYes, some go in that direction also. What question did you ask that moved you away from God?
Here 10 to get you started that I asked, I have more…
1. Why is there no credible evidence to support the story Christ in the bible?
2. Where is the Holy Grail
3. Where is Noah’s Ark
4. Where is the ark of the covenant
5. Why should I reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. Have 1.4Billion+ Muslims got it all wrong?
6. Whys is there not a shining cross in the night sky to remind us all
7. According to the bible Jesus heals a blind man, why did he not just cure blindness all together?
8. Why does “power of Prayer” prove every time it is tested not to work
9. Why are Most of the key points in Christianity not original? The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."
10. Why doesn't Jesus appear to everyone and prove that he is resurrected, just like he appeared to Paul? There is nothing to stop Jesus from materializing in your kitchen tonight to have a personal chat with you. And if you think about it, Jesus really does need to appear to each of us. If Paul needed a personal visit from Jesus to know that Jesus was resurrected, then why wouldn't you?
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I have already stated that I am not a theologist. But have you ever taken a look at the commanmends of the Bible:
That's a nice list of really biased interpretation.
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1. Don't have sex before marriage - how many people are dying from HIV/AIDS because they do not obide by this.
No one. I wonder what kind of a doctor you are going to be if you do not know that you are not getting HIV by having sex outside the marriage. And being in marriage will not help you if your spouse was infected by HIV before (via blood transfusion, for example). Using condoms, however, helps greatly even for those who have sex before, and instead of marriage. This comment is just plain wrong.
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2. The Bible tells you you're unclean if you touch blood - we know today that so many diseases can spread through blood.
But you will not be infected with most of them just by touching the blood if your skin is not damaged. And if you take this position, could you then explain why the Bible does not tell you that you're unclean if you touch faeces, and do not wash your hands?
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In my opinion, all the "rules/regulations" in the Bible are not there to make your life less fun or difficult, but to protect you.
Well, you provided two examples. The first one is plain wrong, and the second one is close to useless. Are the rest of "rules" in the Bible the same?
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QuoteQuoteYes, some go in that direction also. What question did you ask that moved you away from God?
QuoteYes, some go in that direction also. What question did you ask that moved you away from God?
Here 10 to get you started that I asked, I have more…
1. Why is there no credible evidence to support the story Christ in the bible?
The response of Rome to the rise of Christianity is adequate evidence that there was a historic figure called Jesus.
2.Where is the Holy Grail
You got to be kidding me! You think I should base my faith on a midevial legend? The "grail" has NOTHING to do with authenic Christianity.
3.Where is Noah’s Ark?
I don't see how this applies to JC, but I suggest it is decayed into nothing whever it is.
4.Where is the ark of the covenant?
I'm fairly confident it was melted down when Jerusalem was capotured by Nebuchanezzor (sp?)
5. Why should I reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. Have 1.4Billion+ Muslims got it all wrong?
You need to see for yourself if what those other "gods" (BTW Buddha is not a god) teach and if their truths align with each other.
6.Whys is there not a shining cross in the night sky to remind us all?
When did God say he would do that? Or is that what YOU would need? If sso, you have taken "faith" out of the equation.
7.According to the bible Jesus heals a blind man, why did he not just cure blindness all together?
JC's stated purpose was to make men "whole" saved. His miracles were to give his teaching authority. In other words, this world's greatest needs is more than physical wholeness.
8.Why does “power of Prayer” prove every time it is tested not to work?
Prayer is not a formula, to get what you want, but rather it is designed to move your desires more in alignment with God.
9.Why are Most of the key points in Christianity not original? The pre-Christian God Mithras - called the Son of God and the Light of the World - was born on December 25, died, was buried in a rock tomb, and then resurrected in three days. By the way, December 25 is also the birthday or Osiris, Adonis, and Dionysus. The newborn Krishna was presented with gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Even Christianity's weekly holy day was stolen from the pagans."
Much of what you refer to are additions added to the Christian faith (ie Decmber 25th) apart from the Bible.
10.Why doesn't Jesus appear to everyone and prove that he is resurrected, just like he appeared to Paul? There is nothing to stop Jesus from materializing in your kitchen tonight to have a personal chat with you. And if you think about it, Jesus really does need to appear to each of us. If Paul needed a personal visit from Jesus to know that Jesus was resurrected, then why wouldn't you?
As to why doesn't he do that? I can't say as he did not say. He has made himself more real to me than you have even though you and I can carry on an internet conversation.
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Quote6.Whys is there not a shining cross in the night sky to remind us all?
When did God say he would do that? Or is that what YOU would need? If sso, you have taken "faith" out of the equation.
That's what I would need. Not necessarily the shining cross, but to take faith out of the equation, ie I'd need some evidence. I don't think that's unreasonable.
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"1. Why is there no credible evidence to support the story Christ in the bible?
The response of Rome to the rise of Christianity is adequate evidence that there was a historic figure called Jesus. "
No the repsonse of Rome to the rise of Christinaity proves there were Christians, it does not prove even that there was a Christ; let alone proving the gospels account of his life is accurate.
Does the negative reaction to the Mormons prove that Josepth Smith really did have gold plates given to him by an angel?
"3.Where is Noah’s Ark?
I don't see how this applies to JC, but I suggest it is decayed into nothing whever it is. "
It has somethign to do with JC because the OT and NT are considered 2 parts of one book. If one part is false it casts doubt on the claim that the whole thing is the infallible word of god. We have plenty of ancient remains including boats of ancient Egyptians, the fact there is no evidence of not only Noahs ark but also Noahs flood should cast further doubt on the truth of the bible.
"4.Where is the ark of the covenant?
I'm fairly confident it was melted down when Jerusalem was capotured by Nebuchanezzor (sp?) "
Yet another assertion with no evidence. Yet again this shows the difference between a theist and a free thinker, the former doesnt need evidence to have confidence in proposition the latter does.
"5. Why should I reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. Have 1.4Billion+ Muslims got it all wrong?
You need to see for yourself if what those other "gods" (BTW Buddha is not a god) teach and if their truths align with each other. "
No you need to see what evidence each of those claims have, no evidence= no belief. Whether they are consistent or not is irrelevant.
"Whys is there not a shining cross in the night sky to remind us all?
When did God say he would do that? Or is that what YOU would need? If so, you have taken "faith" out of the equation. "
But in the bible many key players are shown directly gods power, whether its the angel of death simiting the Egyptaisn or jesus performing miracles . As you yourself said his miracles were to give his teaching authority. The problem is only a few people saw his miracles, so why shoudl the rest of us who have not seen them give him any authority?
The response of Rome to the rise of Christianity is adequate evidence that there was a historic figure called Jesus. "
No the repsonse of Rome to the rise of Christinaity proves there were Christians, it does not prove even that there was a Christ; let alone proving the gospels account of his life is accurate.
Does the negative reaction to the Mormons prove that Josepth Smith really did have gold plates given to him by an angel?
"3.Where is Noah’s Ark?
I don't see how this applies to JC, but I suggest it is decayed into nothing whever it is. "
It has somethign to do with JC because the OT and NT are considered 2 parts of one book. If one part is false it casts doubt on the claim that the whole thing is the infallible word of god. We have plenty of ancient remains including boats of ancient Egyptians, the fact there is no evidence of not only Noahs ark but also Noahs flood should cast further doubt on the truth of the bible.
"4.Where is the ark of the covenant?
I'm fairly confident it was melted down when Jerusalem was capotured by Nebuchanezzor (sp?) "
Yet another assertion with no evidence. Yet again this shows the difference between a theist and a free thinker, the former doesnt need evidence to have confidence in proposition the latter does.
"5. Why should I reject Allah, Vishnu, Budda, Waheguru and all of the thousands of other gods that other people worship today. Have 1.4Billion+ Muslims got it all wrong?
You need to see for yourself if what those other "gods" (BTW Buddha is not a god) teach and if their truths align with each other. "
No you need to see what evidence each of those claims have, no evidence= no belief. Whether they are consistent or not is irrelevant.
"Whys is there not a shining cross in the night sky to remind us all?
When did God say he would do that? Or is that what YOU would need? If so, you have taken "faith" out of the equation. "
But in the bible many key players are shown directly gods power, whether its the angel of death simiting the Egyptaisn or jesus performing miracles . As you yourself said his miracles were to give his teaching authority. The problem is only a few people saw his miracles, so why shoudl the rest of us who have not seen them give him any authority?
what did he LOSE??
Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed.
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