Rookie120 0 #1 July 31, 2007 WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The FBI and IRS have searched the home of Republican Sen. Ted Stevens in a ski resort in Alaska as part of an investigation into his links with an oil-services company, officials said on Monday. "The FBI and IRS are conducting a court-authorized search warrant in Girdwood, Alaska," an FBI spokesman said in Washington, but gave no further details. The Alaskan politician, the longest-serving Republican in Senate history, issued a statement saying: "My attorneys were advised this morning that federal agents wished to search my home in Girdwood in connection with an ongoing investigation. "I continue to believe this investigation should proceed to its conclusion without any appearance that I have attempted to influence the outcome," the statement said. Girdwood is about 40 miles south of Anchorage, the state's largest city. Stevens is the subject of a grand-jury investigation into his links with managers of VECO Corp., the state's largest oil-services company, as well as numerous unrelated fisheries matters. In May, Bill Allen, then the chief executive of VECO, along with a vice president, Rick Smith, pleaded guilty to several federal corruption charges. The two admitted paying over $400,000 to bribe Alaska lawmakers. Allen had been a financial supporter of Stevens' campaigns and a partner with him on a race horse. He also oversaw the a project to remodel Stevens' Girdwood home in 2000, vetting bills and construction work. The Anchorage Daily News has reported that contractors who worked on the remodeling of Stevens' home had their records subpoenaed by the federal grand jury. Stevens is the former chairman of the powerful Senate Appropriations Committee. During his tenure as chairman of the committee, Stevens developed a reputation of delivering federal funds to public works projects in the state. When do these SOB's turn and why do they think it is ok to FUCK the American people over like this? Is it just greed or do they really believe they are doing good things for the people buy screwing us over why the few reep the outcome?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #2 July 31, 2007 Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #3 July 31, 2007 QuoteCouldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #4 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? true to form, the "but they did it first" response... both (assuming conviction) are a pair of turds in office, why do you make a deal about party affiliation, sounds like you are unable to speak harshly of crooks that represents the GOP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 July 31, 2007 Wait, wait, lemme get this straight . . . Stevens was in the pocket of people that do construction for oil companies?!? What a shock!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #6 July 31, 2007 Quote Wait, wait, lemme get this straight . . . Stevens was in the pocket of people that do construction for oil companies?!? What a shock! I know, I need to go lie down and cool off. This shit is soo out of control. I wish I only knew how we could stop it. Some would say vote him out but the next asshole to take his place would probably be just like him in a couple of years. SADIf you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #7 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? Sigh, here we go with the 'my team' vs 'your team' mentality again ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #8 July 31, 2007 QuoteQuoteCouldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? One is the same as the other. Dems and repubs are mostly cut from the same bolt of cloth. There are some good people on bothsides as there are some crooks on bothsides. Forget what party they belong to and focus on the crime that they are being accused of. If they are truely guilty then let's hope that they pay for what they did and not get a get out of jail free card."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #9 July 31, 2007 QuoteIf they are truly guilty then let's hope that they pay for what they did and not get a get out of jail free card. Or get sentenced to a minimum-security facility (assuming he's truly dirty. At this point it's only association. It's possible it isn't his fault. And remember that prosecutors [especially Federal] will throw the kitchen sink in with any charges). The Founders knew human nature well, and they knew that power corrupts even the best people if allowed to run unchecked. In my opinion, term limits would keep people from becoming too entrenched and comfortable with the status quo and starting thinking they are above the law, and thus susceptible to corruption (e.g., Duke Cunningham - good man gone bad). mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #10 July 31, 2007 Quote In my opinion, term limits would keep people from becoming too entrenched and comfortable with the status quo and starting thinking they are above the law, and thus susceptible to corruption (e.g., Duke Cunningham - good man gone bad). But this is starting to become a regular occurence! What the hell is wrong with these people and why do they turn bad like this? It's sickening I tell you!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,483 #11 July 31, 2007 QuoteWhat the hell is wrong with these people and why do they turn bad like this? 1/2 part greed, 1/2 part power. Stir with a large wisk. Let bake for 30 minutes. And, it will change the best of men.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #12 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote In my opinion, term limits would keep people from becoming too entrenched and comfortable with the status quo and starting thinking they are above the law, and thus susceptible to corruption (e.g., Duke Cunningham - good man gone bad). But this is starting to become a regular occurence! What the hell is wrong with these people and why do they turn bad like this? It's sickening I tell you! Nothing extraordinary. After a while it just becomes all about them rather than our nation as a whole. You know how that goes, right? ----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #13 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote In my opinion, term limits would keep people from becoming too entrenched and comfortable with the status quo and starting thinking they are above the law, and thus susceptible to corruption (e.g., Duke Cunningham - good man gone bad). But this is starting to become a regular occurence! What the hell is wrong with these people and why do they turn bad like this? It's sickening I tell you! It's not "starting to become" - it's been that way for a while...BOTH sides of the aisle, BOTH houses. Term limits (1 go-round and you're done), revocation of the political retirement system (let 'em use SS like the rest of us) and STRONG limits on where/how PACs can lobby would go a long, LONG way toward cleaning things up.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #14 July 31, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteCouldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? One is the same as the other. Dems and repubs are mostly cut from the same bolt of cloth. There are some good people on bothsides as there are some crooks on bothsides. Forget what party they belong to and focus on the crime that they are being accused of. If they are truely guilty then let's hope that they pay for what they did and not get a get out of jail free card. I agree!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? true to form, the "but they did it first" response... both (assuming conviction) are a pair of turds in office, why do you make a deal about party affiliation, sounds like you are unable to speak harshly of crooks that represents the GOP Not at all. The point I am trying to make is it not just R's. It is all of them but the Dems and the media report it as if it is different. It is not Crooks should go to jail!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #16 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? true to form, the "but they did it first" response... both (assuming conviction) are a pair of turds in office, why do you make a deal about party affiliation, sounds like you are unable to speak harshly of crooks that represents the GOP Not at all. The point I am trying to make is it not just R's. It is all of them but the Dems and the media report it as if it is different. It is not Crooks should go to jail! Is there any room for real crooks, when the jails are full of petty drug offenders?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #17 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? true to form, the "but they did it first" response... both (assuming conviction) are a pair of turds in office, why do you make a deal about party affiliation, sounds like you are unable to speak harshly of crooks that represents the GOP Not at all. The point I am trying to make is it not just R's. It is all of them but the Dems and the media report it as if it is different. It is not Crooks should go to jail! Is there any room for real crooks, when the jails are full of petty drug offenders? How long til John makes this about Iraq, too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #18 July 31, 2007 Quotepetty drug offenders? However mean and small minded they might be, drug offenders are still criminals today. Maybe they'll be less petty after some time off. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #19 July 31, 2007 QuoteQuotepetty drug offenders? However mean and small minded they might be, drug offenders are still criminals today. Maybe they'll be less petty after some time off. I see Johns point as being the cells are filled with people who could better serve a sentence with at home monitoring and probation. It does work. I wore an ankle bracelet for several months for an assualt and battery conviction. Worked for me. I know quite a few guys who have also had the bracelet slapped on. Worked for them also. Locking someone up for petty offences really only makes them worst in many cases. Prison should be reserved for the more serious crimes. Now, of course, if a person is running a drug empire they should be in prison. The kid on the corner hawking rock should be placed into programs that will turn him/her around for the better. Placing them in a facility with the most harden offenders is only an education for the worst. I really did not believe that Scooter Libby needed to be in prison and the same with Martha Stewart. They lied, true. Yet, they never killed anyone. Politicians who lie and steal should lose everything that they have aquired. They should lose their wealth. I'm not so sure about prison."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfc 1 #20 July 31, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. He is a one-man argument for term limits. Did you say the same for Jefferson? true to form, the "but they did it first" response... both (assuming conviction) are a pair of turds in office, why do you make a deal about party affiliation, sounds like you are unable to speak harshly of crooks that represents the GOP Not at all. The point I am trying to make is it not just R's. It is all of them but the Dems and the media report it as if it is different. It is not Crooks should go to jail! Jefferson got plenty of coverage IIRC. The real reason that folk have the impression that the GOP is more corrupt is because more of them have been investigated/indicted/convicted than Dems in the last 2-3 congress sessions. On a related note it is good to see the house pass the new ethics bill today with a huge majority, it will make it harder for lobbyists to legally bribe lawmakers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #21 July 31, 2007 QuoteOn a related note it is good to see the house pass the new ethics bill today with a huge majority, it will make it harder for lobbyists to legally bribe lawmakers. Let's hope it actually has some teeth. I tend to be pretty cynical when those guys announce they're going to police themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #22 July 31, 2007 QuoteQuoteOn a related note it is good to see the house pass the new ethics bill today with a huge majority, it will make it harder for lobbyists to legally bribe lawmakers. Let's hope it actually has some teeth. I tend to be pretty cynical when those guys announce they're going to police themselves. It is hard to have faith in a fox watching over the chickens."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #23 August 1, 2007 What chickens? There aren't any chicken left in there.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
