kallend 2,183 #51 August 5, 2007 Quote In YOUR opinion, obviously...since there are a BUNCH of studies out there that prove you wrong. Cites?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #52 August 5, 2007 Quote 'The Liberal media" in the context of US media is a fucking joke. All US media is so right wing that the most liberal by all standards would at BEST be considered center. They WOULD be right of communism....just a little"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 August 5, 2007 QuoteQuote In YOUR opinion, obviously...since there are a BUNCH of studies out there that prove you wrong. Cites? Those studies have been posted on this site many dam times. Dont be so lazy"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #54 August 5, 2007 Here is one."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,183 #55 August 5, 2007 QuoteHere is one. You'll have to do better than that - it only examines a US perspective, not a world perspective, of the US media.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #56 August 6, 2007 Quote Quote Here is one. You'll have to do better than that - it only examines a US perspective, not a world perspective, of the US media. YOUR problem is YOU care about what the world thinks. If that was really important we would not be the country we are. The WORLD is jelous of what we have accomplished so the view is tainted. But you just go ahead and keep worrying about what others think. That ranks right up there with being pissed some one else makes more money than you. Or they don't pay enough taxesIt is a bitch aint it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #57 August 6, 2007 QuoteThe WORLD is jelous of what we have accomplished so the view is tainted. Sure....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 August 6, 2007 Quote Quote The WORLD is jelous of what we have accomplished so the view is tainted. Sure.... See??"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #59 August 6, 2007 QuoteQuote In YOUR opinion, obviously...since there are a BUNCH of studies out there that prove you wrong. Cites? I've posted the cites plenty of times... a search should find them for you easily. Start with the Pew Center.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #60 August 6, 2007 Quote Quote Quote 'The Liberal media" in the context of US media is a fucking joke. All US media is so right wing that the most liberal by all standards would at BEST be considered center. Oh, common, tell us how you really feel about US.. He was not talking about the US, but the US media. And most people outside the US that I've talked to about this agree, me included. Even what is considered Left Wing Media inside the US would be considered right of center everywhere else. Everywhere else? I love these kinds of all or nothing statements. They say so much about the speaker. Quote Another things that isnt helping the US consumer of news is the extremely US centric view of the news presented on all the mainstream US media outlets. Perhaps that has to to with the fact that the US, as an economy, is much more autonomous than most of the industrialized nations,... and we're are the largest economy in thw world. It's pretty easy to be blissfully ignorant of what happens on other continents. The relative impact of what happens in Germany is pretty irrelevant to the average American. Europeans keep up with what happens in their part of the world because it matters. Do the typical Europeans really know that much more about what is happening in China or southern Africa or Peru than the typical American? Is the average Dane really that much more informed about what is going on in Australia? Oh yeah, foreigners keep up with developments in the US because we are the top dog and because our recent endeavors (like Iraq) do have a global impact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 August 6, 2007 Quotesilence someone because their point of view is not the same as your group's through intimadation is what is wrong. Gee you dont seem to have a problem with it when the Presidents henchmen do it so your Imperious Leader does not have to listen to a discouraging word http://www.yourleaders.org/george_w_bushs_presidential_advance_manual When will you be pulling " RALLY SQUAD" duty ???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #62 August 7, 2007 QuoteQuotesilence someone because their point of view is not the same as your group's through intimadation is what is wrong. Gee you dont seem to have a problem with it when the Presidents henchmen do it so your Imperious Leader does not have to listen to a discouraging word http://www.yourleaders.org/george_w_bushs_presidential_advance_manual When will you be pulling " RALLY SQUAD" duty ???? Probably still better than those "free speech zones" that the Dems set up... over a mile away from the convention, IIRC...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #63 August 7, 2007 QuoteQuotesilence someone because their point of view is not the same as your group's through intimadation is what is wrong. Gee you dont seem to have a problem with it when the Presidents henchmen do it so your Imperious Leader does not have to listen to a discouraging word http://www.yourleaders.org/george_w_bushs_presidential_advance_manual When will you be pulling " RALLY SQUAD" duty ???? Is this one of those "pay no attention to my behavior, look at what the other side is doing" scenarios? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian84 0 #64 August 7, 2007 Quote YOUR problem is YOU care about what the world thinks. If that was really important we would not be the country we are. The WORLD is jelous of what we have accomplished so the view is tainted. I think NCclimber has it right when he says that because of the economic autonomy of the US and the global impact of the US's actions the rest of us are somewhat forced to take note. That said, I'm struggling to understand why so many american's are of the opinion that the rest of us are jealous of them. It simply isn't the case and to state otherwise only serves your own ego. Disagreement and jealousy are quite different things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #65 August 7, 2007 QuoteQuote YOUR problem is YOU care about what the world thinks. If that was really important we would not be the country we are. The WORLD is jelous of what we have accomplished so the view is tainted. I think NCclimber has it right when he says that because of the economic autonomy of the US and the global impact of the US's actions the rest of us are somewhat forced to take note. That said, I'm struggling to understand why so many american's are of the opinion that the rest of us are jealous of them. It simply isn't the case and to state otherwise only serves your own ego. Disagreement and jealousy are quite different things. I am not sure so many americans do think that but, the left constantly throws out an argument suggesting they know what the "rest of the world" thinks. It is for that very reason I say I do not care. Everyone and every country needs to take care of thier own. The us doles out tons of money to other countries for various reasons so I do not buy the left's argument(s)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ian84 0 #66 August 7, 2007 Fair enough I suppose. It's just frustrating to hear it used as an argument sometimes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #67 August 7, 2007 QuoteFair enough I suppose. It's just frustrating to hear it used as an argument sometimes. Agreed!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #68 August 7, 2007 Quote Don't you understand the "professor" is ok with moveon.org's move to stop Foxnews 1 amendment right? Then you hear them all riled up about Bush's Nazi government...oh the irony. What does asking businesses to refrain from advertising on a network that promotes political views that you disagree with have to do with the first amendment? The first amendment is to prevent the government from interfering with your free speech, not to prevent private individuals from calling companies, voicing their opinions, and refraining from spending their money. I've called Target and Wal-Mart to voice my disappointment with some of their policies. I don't shop there anymore because of those policies. Am I somehow interfering with their ability to have whatever policy they wish? No. Their policies are their choice. I just let them know that as a customer, I'm not happy with what they're doing, and therefore, will not shop there anymore. My money, my choice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #69 August 7, 2007 Quote I've called Target and Wal-Mart to voice my disappointment with some of their policies. I don't shop there anymore because of those policies. Just wait til you have children. I'm guessing you'll forget about your differences w/ Target. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #70 August 7, 2007 >Just wait til you have children. Many people will talk for hours about their political opinions, but when they are presented with a cheaper/easier option that goes against those opinions, they will almost always abandon their principles and choose the easier course. I've known Kris for a while, and she is not one of those people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,183 #71 August 7, 2007 Quote Quote Don't you understand the "professor" is ok with moveon.org's move to stop Foxnews 1 amendment right? Then you hear them all riled up about Bush's Nazi government...oh the irony. What does asking businesses to refrain from advertising on a network that promotes political views that you disagree with have to do with the first amendment? The first amendment is to prevent the government from interfering with your free speech, not to prevent private individuals from calling companies, voicing their opinions, and refraining from spending their money. . Maybe you'll have more luck with him than I did. Amazing how many people misunderstand what the Bill of Rights is all about.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #72 August 7, 2007 Quote >Just wait til you have children. Many people will talk for hours about their political opinions, but when they are presented with a cheaper/easier option that goes against those opinions, they will almost always abandon their principles and choose the easier course. I've known Kris for a while, and she is not one of those people. thanks. I doubt kids will change my opinions about Target and Walmart, because aren't parents supposed to be teaching their kids morals? How are you setting a good example for your child if you're willing to sacrifice your principles to save a little time or money? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #73 August 7, 2007 Two in diapers can be pretty compelling. Didn't mean to stir the pot on this one. I have no idea what you beef is with Target. My wife loves Target. So do many of her friends with small children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #74 August 7, 2007 Target donates a portion of profits to local charities. Instead of passing the savings to their customers. In effect choosing how their customers donate FOR them. Like their customers are too stupid to pick their own charities. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #75 August 7, 2007 Quote That said, I'm struggling to understand why so many american's are of the opinion that the rest of us are jealous of them. It simply isn't the case and to state otherwise only serves your own ego. Disagreement and jealousy are quite different things. Not all of us have that attitude. Only a very vocal minority, our "bring 'em on President" and those on this forum who are bucking for the job as al Qaeda poster child of the year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites