Terrorism: Blaming the Victim

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From the Strategy Page:

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Blaming the Victim
July 20, 2007: The war on terror is all about religion, but in more ways than many people realize. The mass media in the West does not like to deal with the religious aspects of terrorism. Why this is, well, that's another matter. Meanwhile, the Western media make a big deal out of Moslem grievances, and the claims that Moslems are being persecuted in the West, and under attack in their own homelands.

But the reality is that most Moslem nations are fundamentally hostile to other religions. Saudi Arabia simply forbids the practice of any other religion. If foreigners wish to hold non-Islamic religious services, they have to do it in their homes. The only houses of worship allowed in Saudi Arabia are Moslem. Trying to convert a Saudi to a religion other than Islam can get you killed, legally.

While many are aware of the extreme religious bias practiced in Saudi Arabia, less known is a similar bias present in all Moslem nations. While many of these countries don't have anti-infidel (non Moslems) laws, they tolerate crimes by Islamic vigilantes against non-Moslems. These Moslem nations know they are doing bad things, because the governments will go to great lengths trying to deny or cover up these acts. The leaders of these nations know that religious persecution is evil. That's why they attempt to ignore it, or to admit that it even exists in their midst. Energetic efforts will be made to assert that it is Moslems who are being persecuted in non-Moslem nations. In the West, this is considered ludicrous, at least by those who bother to pay attention to what is actually happening in the Moslem world.

Since this belief that Islam is under attack motivates Islamic terrorists, it would make sense to point out how utterly false the accusation is. Not only is Islam not under attack, but Moslem governments, and most of the mass media everywhere tend to ignore or downplay the very real violence and hostility Moslems direct at non-Moslems. When pressed, Western journalists, or at least their editors, will claim that focusing on Moslems attacking non-Moslems will only anger the Islamic world, and increase the hatred that creates Islamic terrorists. That doesn't make any sense, but at least the feelings of Moslems are being tended to.

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"The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat."

[SpeedRacer 1]

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most of the mass media everywhere tend to ignore or downplay the very real violence and hostility Moslems direct at non-Moslems.

they do?? really??

Speed Racer
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[billvon 3,132]

>and most of the mass media everywhere tend to ignore or downplay
>the very real violence and hostility Moslems direct at non-Moslems.

"The mainstream media reports nothing but the bad news in Iraq, about how our troops are getting killed by extremists! Their blatant liberal bias is obvious."

"The mainstream media doesn't report enough of the bad news in Iraq, about how our troops are getting killed by extremists! Their blatant liberal bias is obvious."

When you're getting an equal amount of complaints in both directions, you're probably doing something right!

[rushmc 23]

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>and most of the mass media everywhere tend to ignore or downplay
>the very real violence and hostility Moslems direct at non-Moslems.

"The mainstream media reports nothing but the bad news in Iraq, about how our troops are getting killed by extremists! Their blatant liberal bias is obvious."

"The mainstream media doesn't report enough of the bad news in Iraq, about how our troops are getting killed by extremists! Their blatant liberal bias is obvious."

When you're getting an equal amount of complaints in both directions, you're probably doing something right!

You are either missing or avoiding his point completly. If the latter, I susspect it is not an accident. He is right on the money by the way. And the main reason they will not report that angle he posts is it will take supporters away from the side of the issue which they (the media ) supports.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[NCclimber 0]

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You are either missing or avoiding his point completly.

Look around SC. Bill seems to be missing the point pretty consistently, today.

[billvon 3,132]

>He is right on the money by the way.

So do you now believe that the media is intentionally NOT reporting on the bad news in Iraq, including attacks on US soldiers? That's what the article Mark posted claimed.

Or do you believe that the media is intentionally reporting bad news to make the war look bad?

Just trying to see which way you're going today.

>And the main reason they will not report that angle he posts . . .

So you are actually claiming that the media is NOT reporting attacks against US troops?

[rushmc 23]

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>He is right on the money by the way.

So do you now believe that the media is intentionally NOT reporting on the bad news in Iraq, including attacks on US soldiers? No, they are not reporting the kind of information relative to what is going on over there. The very type of information that is presented at the begining of this thread. And they omit informatition intentionaly because it does not support there veiws. That's what the article Mark posted claimed.

Or do you believe that the media is intentionally reporting bad news to make the war look bad?To a point YES

Just trying to see which way you're going today.fuck the insults billvon

>And the main reason they will not report that angle he posts . . .

So you are actually claiming that the media is NOT reporting attacks against US troops?

No, you do the twist again

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,132]

>>So do you now believe that the media is intentionally NOT reporting
>>on the bad news in Iraq, including attacks on US soldiers?

>No, they are not reporting the kind of information relative to what is going
>on over there.

RushMC, meet RushMC. He disagrees with you, I am afraid.

RushMC pre-flipflop: "Just know that a media lead circus is heading up the oposition for the most part. They report how many have died today and then go on to something else."

[livendive 8]

Hey Mark, have you seen the movie "Days of Glory (Indigenes)"? I'm curious who you cheered for, the Muslims, the French, or the Germans?

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[crozby 0]

I'm not sure that I can agree that most of the following are fundamentally hostile to other religions. Right......

Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Brunei, Burkina Faso,
Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, Djibouti, Egypt, Gambia, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Lebanon, Libia, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Mauritania, Morocco, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Palestine, Quatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, Sudan, Sruname, Syria, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uganda, UAE, Uzbekistan, Western Sahara, Yemen.

[rushmc 23]

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>>So do you now believe that the media is intentionally NOT reporting
>>on the bad news in Iraq, including attacks on US soldiers?

>No, they are not reporting the kind of information relative to what is going
>on over there.

RushMC, meet RushMC. He disagrees with you, I am afraid.

RushMC pre-flipflop: "Just know that a media lead circus is heading up the oposition for the most part. They report how many have died today and then go on to something else."

My point is clear. You post EXACTLTY the issue I raise. Sorry you choose to use your word games to make your point.

By the way, did your news sources report the major GOOD news out of Iraq today?

If you think the only relavant news is the deaths then I feel sorry for you.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

YOU ASKEDSo do you now believe that the media is intentionally NOT reporting
>>on the bad news in Iraq, including attacks on US soldiers?

I said No(I do not believe what you said), because the deaths are the only thing they report(what they are doing is) not reporting the kind of information relative to what is going
>on over there.

RushMC, meet RushMC. He disagrees with you, I am afraid.

RushMC pre-flipflop: "Just know that a media lead circus is heading up the oposition for the most part. They report how many have died today and then go on to something else."