SkyPiggie 0 #1 July 19, 2007 News: Cruise starts filming anti-Hitler drama amid German uproar Filming started Thursday on a movie starring Tom Cruise as the real-life mastermind behind a plot to kill Adolf Hitler, amid German grumbling about the high-profile Scientologist playing a national hero. German officials have baulked at the choice of Cruise to play Count Claus Schenk von Stauffenberg. They cite the actor's ties to the Church of Scientology, which is viewed here as a "totalitarian" group that exploits vulnerable people, as making him unfit to play a German martyr... More: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070719121410.ijnrdmuj&show_article=1 My opinion: His religion should not be a factor in whether or not to support his movie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #2 July 19, 2007 Scientology is a shady pyramid scheme. If it wasn't dressed up as a religion it would be illegal.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 July 19, 2007 I can understand their issue.. Cruise is a shite actor. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 898 #4 July 19, 2007 I think it just creeps them out that he looks like von Stauffenberg! and how do think the locals feel seeing Stukas with swastikas flying overhead?how they view any site associated with Hitler as sacred just seems wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #5 July 19, 2007 It sounds like they are allowing the movie to be filmed there, with Tom Cruise as the star, so I don't think they are discriminating against him. As for saying that Cruise is inappropriate for the role, I think that everyone - especially Stauffenberg's son - has a right to speak their opinion about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 July 19, 2007 QuoteIf it wasn't dressed up as a religion it would be illegal. The same can be said about most religions.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPiggie 0 #7 July 19, 2007 QuoteI think it just creeps them out that he looks like von Stauffenberg! Attached - comparison. That's kinda creepy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPiggie 0 #8 July 19, 2007 QuoteScientology is a shady pyramid scheme. If it wasn't dressed up as a religion it would be illegal. What's that got to do with an actor playing an unrelated role in a movie? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyPiggie 0 #9 July 19, 2007 QuoteAs for saying that Cruise is inappropriate for the role, I think that everyone - especially Stauffenberg's son - has a right to speak their opinion about it. Speaking an opinion - certainly. But his religious views are irrelevent to the role of a Nazi, and shouldn't even be a factor. It's not like he's playing the role of Jesus - then I could understand the uproar. And ain't it funny how they get all high and mighty about Scientology, like it's something so absolutely horrible, when they're talking about representing Nazi's, who exterminated millions of people for no good reason at all? You can't get any worse than that. Scientologists are angels by comparison. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #10 July 19, 2007 Cruise as Stauffenberg? Ahahahahahahahahahh-HAHAHH!ohohohooo!! [LOL-ing, ROFL-ing, LMAO-ing, etc] ...my God, they're serious! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #11 July 19, 2007 QuoteBut his religious views are irrelevent to the role of a Nazi, and shouldn't even be a factor. True, but it sounds like they think of Scientology as something more than just a religion. (A "totalitarian group" as it is called in the article, "making him unfit to play a German martyr.") Not saying I agree with them, but it doesn't sound like a religious issue for those who are upset at the use of Cruise for this role. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #12 July 19, 2007 QuoteAnd ain't it funny how they get all high and mighty about Scientology, like it's something so absolutely horrible, when they're talking about representing Nazi's, who exterminated millions of people for no good reason at all? Not because he's a Nazi, because he's the guy who tried to assassinate Hitler. In a roundabout way, that could make people see him as one of the good guys.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #13 July 20, 2007 Christanity is a shady pyramid scheme. If it wasn't dressed up as a religion it would be illegal. *** There...fixed it for ya Roy They say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #14 July 20, 2007 QuoteI can understand their issue.. Cruise is a shite actor. That would be my big concern too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #15 July 20, 2007 QuoteI can understand their issue.. Cruise is a shite actor. I think he's good. It's easy to dismiss his abilities because of some of the popular roles he's played. I'm reminded of the of U-turn Ann Rice made after seeing his performance in "Interview with a Vampire" saying she liked to think his performance would be remembered like Olivier's Hamlet (w.r.t. that role). When she criticized the casting in the first place she'd obviously never seen "Rain Man" or worse, did and still came away clueless. Yes he's a fruitcake and Scientology isn't a religion, it's not even a cult. LRH dressed it up that way mainly as a tax dodge and legal shelter for his pseudoscience scam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #16 July 20, 2007 QuoteYes he's a fruitcake and Scientology isn't a religion, it's not even a cult. LRH dressed it up that way mainly as a tax dodge and legal shelter for his pseudoscience scam. yes“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #17 July 20, 2007 Yes, Cruise has been portrayed as a kook in the media (and Scientology is nothing but a scam). However, if he can put aside his personal issues and do a good job with the material, then the Germans should as well. I agree with them that there should not be anything to legitimize Scientology. It's the Bagwan all over again. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #18 July 20, 2007 Quote Yes he's a fruitcake and Scientology isn't a religion, it's not even a cult. Yeah, the religion thing is questionable, but it definitely seems to fit the definition of "cult." Hubbard seems to be the P.T. Barnum of spiritual leaders. I'm not sure why anyone would want to follow someone who is known for claiming that starting one's own religion is the best way to get rich, but perhaps his followers deny that he ever made such a statement(?). Oh, and I also thought that Tom Cruise was good in "Interview with a Vampire," especially in that one really homoerotic scene with Brad Pitt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #19 July 22, 2007 QuoteI can understand their issue.. Cruise is a shite actor. Bingo.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #20 July 23, 2007 Anything that shines light on the evil that is scientology is fine in my book.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #21 July 23, 2007 Personally, I consider Scientology as stealing from gullible people; and therefore a borderline, if not outright, criminal activity. Being able to discriminate against Mr. Cruise is an asset. In the same way a person should be able to distinguish and discriminate against any unhealthy behaviors or people." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
