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Quote>Registrations can and HAVE been used to take guns from law abiding owners . . .
Registrations can and have been used to take cars from law abiding car owners.
I'm not saying registration is good or bad. It's both; there are arguments on both sides. But there is no right to not have guns registered. That's an issue that should be decided by each community on their own. I'd personally vote against it - but if DC votes for it, it's their decision.
*Sigh* Every time you go to a store and buy a handgun, that information is logged and submitted to the BAT-boys (Insta-check)...who then KEEP that info in defiance of the law.
The registration is already there on a federal level - there is no need for the community to repeat it.
By that logic, the community should be able to know what you have in your safe at home, what websites are saved on your computer, etc etc...
Mike
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*Sigh* Every time you go to a store and buy a handgun, that information is logged and submitted to the BAT-boys (Insta-check)...who then KEEP that info in defiance of the law.
yeah, talk about law abiding...
Kallend, why should citizens be concerned with these laws when the Feds won't even comply?
rushmc 23
QuoteQuote......I'm still not concerned about having my plane confiscated.
Probably not. Because there is no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that............................................................................................................yet.
Another paranoid statement.
Not a paraniod statement but comment about a paranoid group. Like the Brady bunch which is now the VPC?
and I don't really think any lobby would try and take GA planes away, I was only trying to make a point about the differences
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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
kallend 2,146
QuoteQuoteQuote......I'm still not concerned about having my plane confiscated.
Probably not. Because there is no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that............................................................................................................yet.
Another paranoid statement.
Not a paraniod statement but comment about a paranoid group. Like the Brady bunch which is now the VPC?
and I don't really think any lobby would try and take GA planes away, I was only trying to make a point about the differences
Is there a move afoot to confiscate guns in the USA?
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
mnealtx 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote......I'm still not concerned about having my plane confiscated.
Probably not. Because there is no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that............................................................................................................yet.
Another paranoid statement.
Not a paraniod statement but comment about a paranoid group. Like the Brady bunch which is now the VPC?
and I don't really think any lobby would try and take GA planes away, I was only trying to make a point about the differences![[:/]](//www.dropzone.com/applications/core/interface/js/spacer.png "[:/]")
Is there a move afoot to confiscate guns in the USA?
Chicago
NYC
DC
Cali
Been happening....where've YOU been?
Mike
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Kennedy 0
Quote“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it.” – Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995
I don't know, what do you think, professor?
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kallend 2,146
QuoteQuote“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it.” – Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995
I don't know, what do you think, professor?
“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States..." is baloney. For a start it would need 60, and that will never happen in my lifetime.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Kennedy 0
I'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speakers aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus(ed) here.
Good Luck.
QuoteQuoteQuote“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it.” – Senator Dianne Feinstein, CBS-TV's 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995
I don't know, what do you think, professor?
“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States..." is baloney. For a start it would need 60, and that will never happen in my lifetime.
In 1993 the Democrats had 57 and the night of the election 60 was a possibility.
The whole party, even then, wasn't unanimous on the subject but it's not an impossibility. Though after the 2000 loss, it's pretty unlikely in the near term.
John if firearms confiscations became a reality would you be in favor of the law and do everything you could to facilitate it?
Or would you defy that law and do everything you could to evade and ignore it?
Or would you do nothing?
hint: the answer is either 1, 2, or 3
try and speak like a human, not a politician.
Or would you defy that law and do everything you could to evade and ignore it?
Or would you do nothing?
hint: the answer is either 1, 2, or 3
try and speak like a human, not a politician.
kallend 2,146
QuoteJohn if firearms confiscations became a reality would you be in favor of the law and do everything you could to facilitate it?
Or would you defy that law and do everything you could to evade and ignore it?
Or would you do nothing?
hint: the answer is either 1, 2, or 3
try and speak like a human, not a politician.
I think such a law would be clearly unconstitutional and I would be opposed to it. Just like I am opposed to all of Bush's assaults on the Constitution.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
Kennedy 0
Attempt # 2
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
witty subliminal message
Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards.
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kallend 2,146
QuoteAttempt # 2
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
The only people I see frothing at the mouth are cleaning their teeth.
Seems to be rather more emotion on your side, judging by the way you and rushmc frame your questions and the threads you (plural) start, especially John Rich.
Try again in a more rational style and you might get a response.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteAttempt # 2
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
The only people I see frothing at the mouth are cleaning their teeth.
Seems to be rather more emotion on your side, judging by the way you and rushmc frame your questions and the threads you (plural) start, especially John Rich.
Try again in a more rational style and you might get a response.
Pot!!!!! Wow. Seeing how your response are normally off topic and angular to the issue this response is entertaining. If you don't think there is a frothing at the mouth emotional attempt to remove guns from the hands of the people in direct conflict of the 2nd Amendment you are blinding yourself. On purpose I believe and I reference your topic hyjack reply about Bush.
Come on proffessor. Did Kennedy tweak a nerve???
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
rushmc 23
QuoteAttempt # 2
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
He can't reply straight forward. He might have to admit ONE TIME he is wrong.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
kallend 2,146
QuoteQuoteAttempt # 2
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
He can't reply straight forward. He might have to admit ONE TIME he is wrong.
I have yet to see anyone frothing at the mouth over guns. I guess you missed it last time because I was so subtle with the reference to tooth cleaning.
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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.
rushmc 23
QuoteQuoteQuoteAttempt # 2
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's aparent ignorance.
Do you still believe there is "no emotional frothing at the mouth lobby trying to do that" right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
He can't reply straight forward. He might have to admit ONE TIME he is wrong.
I have yet to see anyone frothing at the mouth over guns. I guess you missed it last time because I was so subtle with the reference to tooth cleaning.
Proof yet again
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Kennedy 0
QuoteI have yet to see anyone frothing at the mouth over guns. I guess you missed it last time because I was so subtle with the reference to tooth cleaning.
Do we need an introductory class on idioms, professor? What is it with you and avoiding simple questions to focus on irrelevant quirks in the post? You are capable of answering a simple yes-or-no question, aren't you?
Attempt #3
QuoteI'm going to try to keep you focus here. Forget the political technicalities. Forget the speaker's apparent ignorance.
<excerpt removed for the professor's apparent incomprehension of idioms>
Do you still believe there is not a very emotional lobby trying to do that right now?
Do you think there isn't a plot afoot whose goal is to ban firearms?
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mnealtx 0
The gov't attorney in US vs. Emerson argued that there was NO provision in the 2nd Amendment for private ownership - so I'd say that there IS.
Quotes from various Congresscritters with their heads firmly up their 4th point of contact to follow.
Quotes from various Congresscritters with their heads firmly up their 4th point of contact to follow.
Mike
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birdlike 0
QuoteQuoteFeel free to answer the question, professor. Why do things need to change? Why should the Taihrt amendment not be renewed? What is better about not having it in place?
For the same reason that every pilot's name and every airplane owners's name is posted on the FAA web site.
You just complain now because you see your favorite ox being gored.
That so-called "explanation" clarifies nothing.
Now you have two tasks: explain the benefit of doing away with the Tiahrt amendment, and explain the benefit of having every pilot's name and every airplane owner's name on the FAA website.
I'm starting to think you don't have a substantive answer to offer, here.
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QuoteGuns kill far more people than planes every year, both in the USA and worldwide.
And cars kill more than guns -- DESPITE the fact that "guns are designed to kill, and cars are not."
Imagine if the cars were designed to kill!
Now, let's ask the question, "How well have the laws that make it easy to look up who has what car, and the laws that require people to get a license before they drive, worked to eliminate vehicular deaths?"
People scream on and on about licensing guns just like we license cars, but they never think for a moment about the fact that licensing cars has zero ability to stop car accidents from happening, as evidenced by how common car accidents actually ARE.
I sure wish you would stop obfuscating, and offering these pathetic distractions about cars and airplanes, sir, as they bring us no nearer to anything that we can call the truth of the matter.
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birdlike 0
QuoteWhere is your right to confidentiality in gun ownership stated?
Everything else in your post is moot.
If you cannot see that it is sensible to allow people to guard the information of what guns they own from random inquiries, then I have to assume that in cases of even less sensitive or safety-related information--particularly that not pertaining to Constitutionally-protected rights--you would not object to its publication?
So, in other words, if keeping quiet about who owns what GUNS is not justified, I suppose you wouldn't object to publication of who owns what large screen televisions; expensive jewelry; sex toys...
Yeah, let's keep a federal database that anyone can access, and fill it with reports on who has insured what expensive jewelry. That'll be a good idea!
After all, if it's not putting people in greater danger of being targeted for theft, what's the problem?
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Clearly legal? Did I miss the court case? Luckily, the Tiarht amendment still stands and the information remains private - as it should be.
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