kallend 2,182 #1 July 14, 2007 www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=30015df1-785a-4bc4-95ef-ffb0e3489e6a... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #2 July 14, 2007 From what I read of that, the real issue is getting a full workforce of controllers in place. Just about any organization that falls below 70% manpower is going to be less and less effective.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #3 July 14, 2007 They covered that on one of the new shows on AFN - pretty fucked up situation, seems like!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #4 July 14, 2007 Most FAA towers are understaffed by that % or more. There is a lack of people applying, lack of money to pay the needed saleries and a high burn out rate. The FAA just lost a source of Air Force controllers when they decided to make it a new policy that an AF ATC with 15 years experience has to to start in the FAA at the same rate that someone walking in off the street with no experience will recieve. They recently implemented a bonus to hire ex-military but who knows how that will work out.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willard 0 #5 July 14, 2007 QuoteFAA blames pilots for controller errors at DFW Interesting title for the thread. Since right now, according to the article, there are only accusations of such, aren't you rushing to judgement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,182 #6 July 14, 2007 QuoteMost FAA towers are understaffed by that % or more. There is a lack of people applying, lack of money to pay the needed saleries and a high burn out rate. The FAA just lost a source of Air Force controllers when they decided to make it a new policy that an AF ATC with 15 years experience has to to start in the FAA at the same rate that someone walking in off the street with no experience will recieve. They recently implemented a bonus to hire ex-military but who knows how that will work out. Maybe the silly dress code has something to do with it too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #7 July 14, 2007 From my UK perspective, having a stressed out controller when your in dodgy IMC conditions and running out of fuel certainly raises the heart rate. Having an arsey one with 'attitude' is even worse. I'm only commenting because I experienced this recently. Eventually breaking out of a cloudbase at 250ft AGL (my Decision Height at this location was 200ft) on a PAR with not enough fuel to overshoot through being fucked about, it turned out I was so relieved to see the ground I forgot all about going up to the tower for a chest poking session. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 July 15, 2007 No wonder the other aviation users call you "bug smashers". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiver30960 0 #9 July 16, 2007 Of course the FAA blames the pilots. Isn't that the way it always works? Pilot error, that must be the cause. Because, according to them, the whole reason for the FAA existing is to keep everything perfectly safe and efficient, and if there was a cause OTHER than pilot error that would mean the FAA had done something wrong and we just couldn't have that, now, could we? Plus, we NEED the FAA to protect us from all those error-laden pilots... Elvisio "no fan of da man" Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites