birdlike 0 #51 July 15, 2007 Quote There is a double standard and if you bring it up or mention anything you’re a sexiest woman-hating fuck. I don't want to be the sexiest woman-hating fuck, just a sexy woman-hating fuck. j/k Quote I have asked this question before? What should happen to a person who lies about rape? Like for example the woman in the Duke case. I believe if it were proven beyond a doubt that the accuser is lying they should serve the prison term of the accused would have. The PC police will never let that happen. They believe that doing so would scare women who really have been raped out of making the report and the accusation. Watch an episode of COPS and you can begin to see the real-world application of such thinking. Honestly, if I were a woman, I'd be really angry at the stuff that the authorities are doing in the name of "protecting women." And example: When cops show up at the home of a woman who has called because of a domestic fight, if there is a shred of visible evidence that he may have hit her, they will arrest him regardless of whethe she screams up and down that she doesn't want to press charges, doesn't want him arrested, etc. The reason they do this is because they are worried that the woman may truly want a prosecution but is terrified and living in fear of what he will do if she swears out a complaint against him, and they don't want an abuser to not be caught for it just because he has the woman too afraid to come forward. So the reason I'd be angry if I were a woman is that the authorities are telling me that I'm too stupid/afraid to be able to tell when I really need my S.O. arrested for beating me. They have removed my own discretion, and insulted me by implying overtly that I cannot possibly have the fortitude to make the decision on my own. Quote You decide to drink as an adult, you decide who and where you drink, and you decide to have sex then tough cookie cupcake it’s not rape. Did Fonzie rape that alien chick Cupcake on the cartoon and I missed it?! Quote Edit to add I wonder if this girl knows how much she hurts woman who have actually been raped, also if I remember correctly rape is not about sex it is about power. So in a case like this where it was about sex there was no violence no threats, no drugs I wonder why she is bent on fucking someone’s life up. You never met a chick that fucked up that she would lie to ruin someone just because of the fucked up shit swirling around inside her own head? You're a lucky man, then.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #52 July 15, 2007 QuoteThe reason they do this is because they are worried that the woman may truly want a prosecution but is terrified and living in fear of what he will do if she swears out a complaint against him, and they don't want an abuser to not be caught for it just because he has the woman too afraid to come forward. Well ...the real reason they do this is to cut down on all the bullshit calls.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #53 July 16, 2007 Quote Quote Sorry. Never did the "moped" thing. Riiiiight. And you never beat off either, do you? Just because you like to go home with scanks/heffers/homelies (and aren't ashamed enough to forego blabbing about it) that doesn't mean every guy has equally low standards. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #54 July 16, 2007 Quote She wasn't barred from saying they had sex, she was barred from saying he raped her. I suspect this was because the judge thought the key decision for the jury in this case was to determine whether the circumstances amounted to rape, and that would have been prejudiced by all the witnesses in the trial using that term which in this case WOULD have been pejorative. If all the prosecution witnesses before the jury are saying "rape" and "sexual assault" in a case which centers around whether the circumstances even amounted to rape you might think you risk a miscarriage of justice. Perhaps we should bar all prosecutors from saying what defendants are being prosecuted for.... just present the evidence and let the jurors decide what crime was commited and what sentence is appropriate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #55 July 16, 2007 Quote Quote She wasn't barred from saying they had sex, she was barred from saying he raped her. I suspect this was because the judge thought the key decision for the jury in this case was to determine whether the circumstances amounted to rape, and that would have been prejudiced by all the witnesses in the trial using that term which in this case WOULD have been pejorative. If all the prosecution witnesses before the jury are saying "rape" and "sexual assault" in a case which centers around whether the circumstances even amounted to rape you might think you risk a miscarriage of justice. Perhaps we should bar all prosecutors from saying what defendants are being prosecuted for.... just present the evidence and let the jurors decide what crime was commited and what sentence is appropriate. The difference in this case is clear. There's a difference between a clear cut crime and one where the circumstances may not legally amount to rape. If the jury are to make an objective legal determination on whether events & circumstances amounted to rape then it is prejudicial to have a parade of witnesses call it rape before they deliberate, but perhaps you have a taste for miscarriage of justice. Like it or not the law gives the judge the power he exercised. The "victim" & others then engaged in a publicity campaign to influence the trial outside the courts and compelled the judge to declare a mistrial. Now getting hammered on booze then laid is not her only regret, life is just full of lessons for Tory Bowen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #56 July 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Sorry. Never did the "moped" thing. Riiiiight. And you never beat off either, do you? Just because you like to go home with scanks/heffers/homelies (and aren't ashamed enough to forego blabbing about it) that doesn't mean every guy has equally low standards. I was raped, dickhead. And my skanks just might be your beauty queens. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #57 July 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Sorry. Never did the "moped" thing. Riiiiight. And you never beat off either, do you? Just because you like to go home with scanks/heffers/homelies (and aren't ashamed enough to forego blabbing about it) that doesn't mean every guy has equally low standards. I was raped, dickhead. Dickhead? Nice PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #58 July 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sorry. Never did the "moped" thing. Riiiiight. And you never beat off either, do you? Just because you like to go home with scanks/heffers/homelies (and aren't ashamed enough to forego blabbing about it) that doesn't mean every guy has equally low standards. You took a humorous post about beer goggles and turned it into a personal insult about my 'low standards', so right back at you on the PA allegation. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #59 July 16, 2007 Quote You took a humorous post about beer goggles and responded in a civil but serious manner, to which I responded with a cheap shot about you beating off, then you responded with a clarification of what I already stated (which hurt my feelings), so right back at you Fixed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #60 July 16, 2007 QuoteThat happened to me in college at least once. I was rocked beyond belief and the girl was stone cold sober. The next day all the ladies thought I was so sweet for hooking up with the poor girl. QuoteAnd my skanks just might be your beauty queens. Yeah, the facts speak for themselves when the ladies think you did humanitarian work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #61 July 16, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Sorry. Never did the "moped" thing. Riiiiight. And you never beat off either, do you? Just because you like to go home with scanks/heffers/homelies (and aren't ashamed enough to forego blabbing about it) that doesn't mean every guy has equally low standards. I was raped, dickhead. Dickhead? Nice PA. Are you really offended by the term ...or are you just crying 'mommy mommy' for the moderators?----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #62 July 16, 2007 What are your thoughts on the main topic of this thread? Girl got drunk, got wild and now she's just bitter? OR Girl got really drunk and guy took complete advantage of her incapacitated state? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #63 July 16, 2007 QuoteWhat are your thoughts on the main topic of this thread? Girl got drunk, got wild and now she's just bitter? OR Girl got really drunk and guy took complete advantage of her incapacitated state? See post #35.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #64 July 16, 2007 QuoteWhat are your thoughts on the main topic of this thread? Girl got drunk, got wild and now she's just bitter? OR Girl got really drunk and guy took complete advantage of her incapacitated state? OK, apologies for the D-head remark. As for my whack-off comment, it was meant as a joke, but I guess you weren't in the joking mood. Lighten up, er, pal. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #65 July 16, 2007 As for my "not all of us like fuglies" comment, it was meant as a joke, but I guess you weren't in the joking mood. Lighten up, er, pal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #66 July 17, 2007 Here's another story of drunken rape. I wonder who will try discounting the severity of this crime? http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_197225633.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #67 July 17, 2007 I guess I am lost did you even read the original article? Because if you did you would realize that you are talking apples and oranges. I don’t think anyone here has said it is ok to have sex with an unconscious person. What has been said over and over again is that if two people have been drinking and they decide to have sex. The next day you can't changed that to he raped me. If you can then the men should be able to claim the same thing right?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #68 July 17, 2007 Quote Here's another story of drunken rape. I wonder who will try discounting the severity of this crime? http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_197225633.html That one seems like cut and dry rape to me. Who made the video? His friends? And what kind of friends say "Hey, my bro is raping that passed out chick, let's get some video!"? Anyway, he's already in jail for something else. Moral of the story - Don't do 8 shots of vodka with a bunch of criminals, pass out, and expect not to be raped. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
