masterrig 1 #26 July 10, 2007 I don't make this shit up! Politicians do! I don't understand it either. Seems like, it would be the other way around. Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. In the incident I mentioned, it was a well lit neighborhood. The guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #27 July 10, 2007 Quote I don't make this shit up! Politicians do! I don't understand it either. Seems like, it would be the other way around. Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. In the incident I mentioned, it was a well lit neighborhood. The guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. Chuck Didnt the guy have a well-known prior history of crazy behaivor too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #28 July 10, 2007 Quote I don't make this shit up! Politicians do! I don't understand it either. Seems like, it would be the other way around. Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. In the incident I mentioned, it was a well lit neighborhood. The guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. Chuck Well now they have created a gray area (pardon the pun): Dawn and dusk. Quote I know what you're thinking. "Is it six o'clock or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track of when sundown officially occurs.. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #29 July 10, 2007 QuoteOnce the knife was thrown, the fear of a deadly threat is over unless the attack continues. Then any deadly force used would be in retaliation for the previous deadly force, and not to protect yourself from the use of deadly force. I may be cutting too fine a line, but it seems a bit dicey to me. By that reasoning, the bad guy gets an unlimited number of freebies, so long as he doesn't have any visible weapons. If someone wields a knife at you, the deadly threat doesn't disappear until that person is well out of sight, or dead or disabled on the ground. The article doesn't explain why he voted against the bill. Maybe he took issue with some of the language. Or he did it for his district, knew it would pass anyway. But certainly his behavior runs counter as he not only didn't retreat, but he went towards the people to force the confrontation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 July 10, 2007 Quote Quote I don't understand the logic. It is OK to shoot at night when you can't see your target as well, (nor can you see your back stop), but if the exact same set of circumstances were to occur in daylight, it would be illegal??? I believe the logic is that at night it is hard to tell whether the perp has a gun; the safest thing to do therefore, is to assume he does and blow him away. In the daytime you can see the gun. Nice use of inflammatory language, counselor... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #31 July 10, 2007 QuoteI don't understand the logic. It is OK to shoot at night when you can't see your target as well, (nor can you see your back stop), but if the exact same set of circumstances were to occur in daylight, it would be illegal??? Correct. The logic has nothing to do with ability to see, but rather with the ability of the criminal to escape without being caught. During daylight hours, it is presumed that the police will have a better chance of apprehension after the fact, and therefore shooting isn't warranted. But at night, you can fire away. The actual law puts conditions on shooting at night to protect property (paraphrased): Deadly force can be used... - to prevent the criminal from fleeing and escaping with property, and; - if the property canot be protected or recovered by other means, or; - recovery of the property by other means would involve risk of death or serious bodily injury. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #32 July 10, 2007 Quote Quote I don't make this shit up! Politicians do! I don't understand it either. Seems like, it would be the other way around. Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. In the incident I mentioned, it was a well lit neighborhood. The guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. Chuck Didnt the guy have a well-known prior history of crazy behaivor too? _________________________________ I think, you're right. I haven't really looked into his 'history'. I just might do that!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #33 July 10, 2007 Quote Quote I don't make this shit up! Politicians do! I don't understand it either. Seems like, it would be the other way around. Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. In the incident I mentioned, it was a well lit neighborhood. The guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. Chuck Well now they have created a gray area (pardon the pun): Dawn and dusk. Quote I know what you're thinking. "Is it six o'clock or only five?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track of when sundown officially occurs.. But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself a question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk? ______________________________________ Priceless!!!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #34 July 10, 2007 QuoteThe bill passed by a large margin, but doesn't go into effect until September. I hate to say it, but I kind of hope he gets sued by the guy he shot, might change his way of thinking on the bill he opposed. Same here. He's a hypocrite. Now if the weight of the law comes down on him, and the civil suits are brought and he loses a fortune, he'll understand how full of shit he was for being anti-gun. He'll realize that the pro-gunners were right all along.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #35 July 10, 2007 QuoteOnce the knife was thrown, the fear of a deadly threat is over unless the attack continues. Then any deadly force used would be in retaliation for the previous deadly force, and not to protect yourself from the use of deadly force. I may be cutting too fine a line, but it seems a bit dicey to me. When someone has thrown a knife at you, they have demonstrated that they are willing to use deadly force against you. It matters not whether they have a gun, another knife, or just their bare hands, they have shown that they intend to kill you and are thus deserving of whatever defense measures you have at your disposal. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #36 July 10, 2007 Quote Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. But if you were allowed to, it would sure reduce a lot of theft. QuoteThe guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. He won't be doing that again for some time My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #37 July 11, 2007 Quote Quote Either way, I'd have a hard time, shooting anyone in the back. But if you were allowed to, it would sure reduce a lot of theft. ____________________________________________ I'd want the creep to see who is fixin' to 'hurt' him. _________________________________ Quote The guy had had other vehicles broken into and items stolen. He won't be doing that again for some time _______________________________ Right now, he's recovered from the shot in the ass and is cooling his heels in the cross-bars hotel. Sometimes, slow-dancin' with the big boys!Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
