Libby Spared

[akarunway 1]

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usbush0703,0,3656692,print.story?coll=ny-top-headlines

I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

[Amazon 7]

They are above the laws of this country..The trampling all over the Constitution for the last 6 years.. the freedom to torture ......did you EVER have a doubt???

[quade 4]

As predicted. I still think it's a steaming pile of poo.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

[kallend 2,117]

What a surprise - NOT.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[mikkey 0]

As a non-american, let me see if I understand it.

So a President can free aides who are convicted for obstruction of justice, which they committed to ensure that said President or his VP are not implicated in a scandal/unlawful action?

Isn't this a huge hole in the principle of seperation of power in the US?

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When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray.

[BillyVance 35]

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They are above the laws of this country..The trampling all over the Constitution for the last 6 years.. the freedom to torture ......did you EVER have a doubt???

What I don't understand is why haven't Bush and Cheney been impeached?

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Amazon 7]

It would be a HUGE waste of time...

NOW.. if they DO actually leave office....... let the World Court have them... ALL of them... the whole PNAC gang who took us to an unnessary war based on lies and deciet and greed.. instead of finishing the job in Afghanistan with the people who actually did attack our homeland.

[Para_Frog 1]

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They are above the laws of this country..The trampling all over the Constitution for the last 6 years.. the freedom to torture ......did you EVER have a doubt???

Two words:

Marc Rich

Hypocracy abounds once again.

- Harvey, BASE 1232
TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA

BLiNC Magazine Team Member

[Para_Frog 1]

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What a surprise - NOT.

I completely concur. It would have happened under any administration and been a waste of tax dollars just the same.

Everyone knew it going in...yet the trial proceeded. THAT is what pisses me off.

- Harvey, BASE 1232
TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA

BLiNC Magazine Team Member

[mnealtx 0]

The President can commute sentences or pardon individuals. Governors can do the same thing, for state crimes.

A bit of interesting reading[ for you.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Amazon 7]

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HypocracyHypocrisy abounds once again.

Fixed it for you and I got your hypocrisy right here my "intellectual" friend.


Next PHALACY ( spelled that way on purpose)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/18/politics/main709678.shtml

Bush Vows To Fire Leak Criminals
President Shifts Language On CIA Leaks; Still No Comment On Rove

Mr. Bush said in June 2004 that he would fire anyone in his administration shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of Plame, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, an outspoken critic of the president's Iraq policy.

On Monday, however, he added the qualifier that it would have to be shown that a crime was committed. Not all such disclosures necessarily rise to the level of crime,

[kallend 2,117]

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They are above the laws of this country..The trampling all over the Constitution for the last 6 years.. the freedom to torture ......did you EVER have a doubt???

Two words:

Marc Rich

Hypocracy abounds once again.

Are you suggesting that two wrongs make a right?

Some more words:

Caspar Weinberger
Robert McFarlane
Dick Poindexter
Ollie North
Elliot Abrams
Alan Fiers
Clair George
Duane Clarridge

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[ryoder 1,590]

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Mr. Bush said in June 2004 that he would fire anyone in his administration shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of Plame, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, an outspoken critic of the president's Iraq policy.

Well, on the bright side, this should give Jon Stewart some juicy material for "The Daily Show".

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[mikkey 0]

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Mr. Bush said in June 2004 that he would fire anyone in his administration shown to have leaked information that exposed the identity of Plame, the wife of former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, an outspoken critic of the president's Iraq policy.

Well, on the bright side, this should give Jon Stewart some juicy material for "The Daily Show".

I love Jon Stewart! Funny as.. so lucky that we have our own Comedy channel down under so we can see shows like this, Colbert etc.

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When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray.

[Para_Frog 1]

No, not at all.

But our bubbly little friend probably has a litany of excuses for Mr. Bill.

- Harvey, BASE 1232
TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA

BLiNC Magazine Team Member

[Para_Frog 1]

Libby didn't leak...Libby lied.

Get back on track.

- Harvey, BASE 1232
TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA

BLiNC Magazine Team Member

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Libby didn't leak...Libby lied.

Get back on track.

Incorrect. He did both, but was only brought up on charges for one.

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The World's Most Boring Skydiver

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Libby didn't leak...Libby lied.

Get back on track.

Incorrect. He did both, but was only brought up on charges for one.

Well...because they couldn't prove, at least the US Atty didn't think, that he did. I personally think the leak was higher and Novak should have been indicted for publishing classified information.

But that would make me a civil rights abusing nazi according to buffy.

- Harvey, BASE 1232
TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA

BLiNC Magazine Team Member

[mnealtx 0]

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Libby didn't leak...Libby lied.

Get back on track.

Incorrect. He did both, but was only brought up on charges for one.

Armitage leaked, not Libby.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Libby didn't leak...Libby lied.

Get back on track.

Incorrect. He did both, but was only brought up on charges for one.

Armitage leaked, not Libby.

Ding ding ding. You win a cookie.

And bless his heart...it wasn't out of spite. He just had a very dumbass moment. And owned up to it.

- Harvey, BASE 1232
TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA

BLiNC Magazine Team Member

[Amazon 7]

Gee that is what your Boss said.. you saying he lied too???

Notice all the firings that took place for her getting outed..rhe whole gang of thieves in the White House who played politics rather than worrying about paltry things like Serving the Country.

Oh thats right..... the RIGHT wingers have closed ranks.. she was not really a CIA agent.. she never had any contacts in those countries she was stationed in...gee that means those she worked with weren't really outed by the disclosure either in her pursuit of intelligence..
I guess she never was really serving her country

Since she is not in the right wing.. she never could have served this country at all.

[Andy9o8 2]

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They are above the laws of this country..The trampling all over the Constitution for the last 6 years.. the freedom to torture ......did you EVER have a doubt???

Two words:

Marc Rich

Hypocracy abounds once again.

Are you suggesting that two wrongs make a right?

Some more words:

Caspar Weinberger
Robert McFarlane
Dick Poindexter
Ollie North
Elliot Abrams
Alan Fiers
Clair George
Duane Clarridge

John Dean (White House counsel)
H.R. Haldeman (President's Chief of Staff)
John Erlichman (Senior Aide to President)
John Mitchell (Attorney General)
G. Gordon Liddy
Charles Colson

[Amazon 7]

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But that would make me a civil rights abusing nazi according to buffy.

Not really Bubba

Buffy... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[kallend 2,117]

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They are above the laws of this country..The trampling all over the Constitution for the last 6 years.. the freedom to torture ......did you EVER have a doubt???

Two words:

Marc Rich

Hypocracy abounds once again.

Are you suggesting that two wrongs make a right?

Some more words:

Caspar Weinberger
Robert McFarlane
Dick Poindexter
Ollie North
Elliot Abrams
Alan Fiers
Clair George
Duane Clarridge

John Dean (White House counsel)
H.R. Haldeman (President's Chief of Staff)
John Erlichman (Senior Aide to President)
John Mitchell (Attorney General)
G. Gordon Liddy
Charles Colson

I didn't think the kids were old enough to remember those guys.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[Gawain 0]

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As a non-american, let me see if I understand it.

So a President can free aides who are convicted for obstruction of justice, which they committed to ensure that said President or his VP are not implicated in a scandal/unlawful action?

Isn't this a huge hole in the principle of seperation of power in the US?

The answer to your immediate question is: Yes. A sitting President may pardon or commute the sentence of any individual. I'm not aware of any exception.

To answer the context of your question: There was no unlawful action on the part of the people whom this aide worked with. There was no unlawful leak. The Vice-President didn't cover anything up. The President didn't cover anything up. In fact, the person who "leaked" the name, Richard Armitage, didn't cover anything up either (so much so that he was charged with nothing in violation of any law).

Scooter Libby was convicted of lying to a prosecutor. His conviction stands, his fine stands, his prison term was commuted.

I would like to know if he is still able to continue his appeal. I'm guessing yes.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!