BillyVance 35 #26 July 3, 2007 Quote then save us more money by increasing their pain...life in prison is mental torture and cheaper at the same time...plus if the conviction is botched they can walk away... "Florida calculated that each execution there costs some $3.18 million. If incarceration is estimated to cost $17000/year, a comparable statistic for life in prison of 40 years would be $680,000." (The Geography of Execution... The Capital Punishment Quagmire in America, Keith Harries and Derral Cheatwood 1997 p.6) How in the fuck did they come up with that number??? Bunch of horseshit! I say, let all the death row inmates have a weekly free-for-all in the yard. THAT would be way cheaper. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #27 July 3, 2007 November 1984 - that's when the decedent in this thread was first sentenced to die...how many appeals and court efforts that can be quantified financially do think he ran up during that time? Add the incarceration costs for death row onto that. I personally do not want any death s on my concience..no matter what they've done. I agree a lot of them do not deserve to live after what they've done...but I also don't have that much confidence in our justice system for something so severe and final. Cops and the legal system already have too much power. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #28 July 3, 2007 Quote November 1984 - that's when the decedent in this thread was first sentenced to die...how many appeals and court efforts that can be quantified financially do think he ran up during that time? Add the incarceration costs for death row onto that. Ah, that makes sense. I think the estate of the accused should have to forfeit everything before taxpayers start footing the bill, but most of these death row inmates usually don't have much at all. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #29 July 3, 2007 >maybe they should give up all the extra crap that we pay for. I recall a prison warden in GA who caught a lot of flack because they had "color cable TV." (It was one used TV in the cafeteria with an MATV on the roof - basically an antenna with an amp, distributed mainly to guard stations.) So the warden decided to get rid of the "color TV." He told one of the guards to go out and get a black and white TV; that was plenty good enough for the one official purpose, which was to show an occasional "how to fix the washing machine" video and the like. Guy went to the store, and discovered no one makes black and white TV's any more. So he went back to the prison. The next week they tried hitting garage sales and the like. Finally found an old one with tubes. Looked like a sufficiently "not wasting the taxpayer's money" clunker so they bought it for $40. They installed the TV and sold the old color TV for . . . $40. It had seen some abuse. They replace tubes occasionally on the B+W TV when they burn out. Cost in labor to "save the taxpayers money" - $480 at last check, adding up the labor to replace the TV and buy tubes. (Apparently an inmate does the actual fixing.) Savings - $0. The result of wardens listening too closely to the public. So be careful what you ask for - you might get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFWAJG 4 #30 July 4, 2007 Quote Quote This is one dumb-assed lawsuit that deserves to get thrown out. Inmate had a death sentence, he was going to die, one way or another. Give me a break! I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I definitely don't think it should include physical torture. At worst, this is a case of unintentional psychological torture for someone who was unlucky enough to have bad veins. Walt I'm just guessing here, but he probably had those bad veins from the drugs he used to shoot up, which is why he was likely killing/robbing the gas station attendent. But then again, this is only a guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
virgin-burner 1 #31 July 4, 2007 Quote Quote Quote This is one dumb-assed lawsuit that deserves to get thrown out. Inmate had a death sentence, he was going to die, one way or another. Give me a break! I have mixed feelings about the death penalty but I definitely don't think it should include physical torture. At worst, this is a case of unintentional psychological torture for someone who was unlucky enough to have bad veins. Walt I'm just guessing here, but he probably had those bad veins from the drugs he used to shoot up, which is why he was likely killing/robbing the gas station attendent. But then again, this is only a guess. and maybe he had just bad veins. and maybe he had a wife and a kid and no job. maybe they had a fight and he just shot first? maybe it wasnt him? just a guess! death penalty cant be the answer.“Some may never live, but the crazy never die.” -Hunter S. Thompson "No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try." -Yoda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #32 July 4, 2007 Not to crazy about the dealth penalty. Might think different if a family member was murdered. Might not. To many are convicted with questionable "evidence". When you read of those who have been freed when proven that the government was wrong, you have to wonder how many more are scheduled to die while innocent. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/03/05/earlyshow/living/main276364.shtml"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #33 July 4, 2007 The Bill of Rights specifically prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. It was written at a time when Europe had been burning people at the stake, breaking them on the wheel, drawing and quartering (a process so nasty I won't go into it), and throwing people on pikes and into frying pans. Whatever we feel about the crime committed, Americans as a people have always tried to make death quick and humane. We dropped people at hangings in the belief that breaking their necks brought a quicker death than merely allowing them to suffer by strangulation. Then we decided that elctrocution would be faster and more painless. I won't comment on the gas chamber, as it's simply too ghastly as well as dangerous to all the other people present. Lethal injection isn't working out as planned. What do you expect, leaving a medical procedure in the hands of cops ? These guys would've died more humanely from a gunshot to their heads. Just one more reason for opposing the death penalty. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
