warpedskydiver 0 #1 July 1, 2007 DEFINITION -(i) The term ``explosive'' includes all material included as a Class 1 explosive by DOT in accordance with 49 CFR chapter I. The term includes, but is not limited to, dynamite, black powder, pellet powders, detonators, blasting agents, initiating explosives, blasting caps, safety fuse, fuse lighters, fuse igniters, squibs, cordeau detonant fuse, instantaneous fuse, igniter cord, igniters, pyrotechnics, special industrial explosive materials, small arms ammunition, small arms ammunition primers, smokeless propellant, cartridges for propellant-actuated power devices, and cartridges for industrial guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #2 July 1, 2007 OK, you've posted a legal "definition" of explosive that defies the technical definition. How about some information on the rest of what is implied in your post's title?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #3 July 1, 2007 I'd like to read more about what you're mentioning in your title. On the face of it, OSHA doesn't have that kind of authority.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 July 1, 2007 This is taken from communication to FedEx and UPS I will try and get more info on it. Docket No. OSHA-2007- 0032, by any of the following methods: Electronically: You may submit comments and attachments electronically at www.regulations.gov, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #5 July 1, 2007 Title corrected Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 July 1, 2007 Quote OK, you've posted a legal "definition" of explosive that defies the technical definition. How about some information on the rest of what is implied in your post's title? My definition of explosives is probably the same as yours.(only less verbose)John, some people just make rules without understanding the implications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #7 July 1, 2007 Quote Quote OK, you've posted a legal "definition" of explosive that defies the technical definition. How about some information on the rest of what is implied in your post's title? My definition of explosives is probably the same as yours.(only less verbose)John, some people just make rules without understanding the implications. Looks like DOT got it from BATFE, which has a vested interest in classifying as many things as possible as explosives, so it has more things to regulate.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #8 July 1, 2007 Just ask any fire fighter what scares the bejeezus out of them, and they'll tell you than ammunition (and rocket motors, professor) are not even on the list, let alone high on the list. Every fire fighter with an iota of training knows that ammunition is no more dangerous during transit than a container of popcorn. All these new definitions/regulations are going to do is raise the price paid by people who have ammunition shipped to them. I've been one in the past, but depending on how this affects price, rather how much it raises the price, will determine whether or not I continue to do so.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #9 July 1, 2007 The thin end of this wedge is getting good & fat. Your AAD cutter will be next. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 July 1, 2007 Quote Just ask any fire fighter what scares the bejeezus out of them, and they'll tell you than ammunition (and rocket motors, professor) are not even on the list, let alone high on the list. Every fire fighter with an iota of training knows that ammunition is no more dangerous during transit than a container of popcorn. All these new definitions/regulations are going to do is raise the price paid by people who have ammunition shipped to them. I've been one in the past, but depending on how this affects price, rather how much it raises the price, will determine whether or not I continue to do so. Ammunition is nearly harmless in a fire, and unless it is chambered all you get is a small pop. not projectiles flying at high speedsBlackpowder is an exception to this rule smokeless powder is only going to burn and that is all. we agree on this, it was merely a comment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 July 1, 2007 Just another way to drive up prices so ONLY THE RIGHT PEOPLE, have these things.because us commoners should not shoot or reload our own ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #12 July 1, 2007 Quote Just ask any fire fighter what scares the bejeezus out of them, and they'll tell you than ammunition (and rocket motors, professor) are not even on the list, let alone high on the list. Every fire fighter with an iota of training knows that ammunition is no more dangerous during transit than a container of popcorn. All these new definitions/regulations are going to do is raise the price paid by people who have ammunition shipped to them. I've been one in the past, but depending on how this affects price, rather how much it raises the price, will determine whether or not I continue to do so. I am not disagreeing with you, or Warped.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #13 July 1, 2007 Quote Quote Just ask any fire fighter what scares the bejeezus out of them, and they'll tell you than ammunition (and rocket motors, professor) are not even on the list, let alone high on the list. Every fire fighter with an iota of training knows that ammunition is no more dangerous during transit than a container of popcorn. All these new definitions/regulations are going to do is raise the price paid by people who have ammunition shipped to them. I've been one in the past, but depending on how this affects price, rather how much it raises the price, will determine whether or not I continue to do so. Ammunition is nearly harmless in a fire, and unless it is chambered all you get is a small pop. not projectiles flying at high speeds You mean - Newton was right?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #14 July 2, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Just ask any fire fighter what scares the bejeezus out of them, and they'll tell you than ammunition (and rocket motors, professor) are not even on the list, let alone high on the list. Every fire fighter with an iota of training knows that ammunition is no more dangerous during transit than a container of popcorn. All these new definitions/regulations are going to do is raise the price paid by people who have ammunition shipped to them. I've been one in the past, but depending on how this affects price, rather how much it raises the price, will determine whether or not I continue to do so. Ammunition is nearly harmless in a fire, and unless it is chambered all you get is a small pop. not projectiles flying at high speeds You mean - Newton was right? Funny thing how that turns out huh? [voiceofgovermentofficial]I don't need this stinking class, my dad can get me a good goverment job. Education is for losers[/voiceofgovermentofficial] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites