rushmc 23 #26 June 29, 2007 QuoteQuote If Ann is so bad why was Kerry and Edwards not called out on Cheany'e daughter? The only reason they (and they are the ones that brought it up, not Cheany) was to try and split him from a base that has issues with homosexuallity. Double standard? Hypocitical? You tell me. I missed it, did Kerry or Edwards say that Cheney's kids should die or did they just bring up the homosexuality issue? In my opinion, Coulter can bring up any issue that she wants to talk about and comment on it. I just don't think she has to use language that makes her look like a mean spirited, hateful bitch. Personally, I think that when people stoop to yelling, calling people names and spewing hatred that it's a good sign that they're trying to compensate for a weak argument. Which brings me back to my original assertion. She has little more to offer than weak arguments so she does what she does and gets rewarded for it. If you believe the last sentense you wrote then you do not pay attention to what and why she says what she does. I assert that those that are close to the truth with thier comments get more shit back than those that are way off target. If this this true she is right on the money. As for the death comments, did you see her full statement so that it is in context? If she is to be damed about what she said then what about those she is responding to? do they get a free pass?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #27 June 29, 2007 Quote I assert that those that are close to the truth with thier comments get more shit back than those that are way off target. I'll both agree and disagree with that. If a Democrat were to flat out state: "During the march to war President Bush said that Iraq had WMD's. Saddam said that Bush was wrong and that the war was over different reasons. Apparently Saddam was the one who was telling the US citizens the truth and Bush feeding us a line of crap." I'd expect him to catch a ration of public abuse. What was said was absolutely true but it's a bit too blunt. However I'd also expect someone to be publicly abused they claimed that another political party was genetically inferior and deserved extermination. That statement is completely false and very hateful. One of those statements is close to the truth, the other offers nothing of value, yet both will greeted with a public outcry. IMO, what little actual content she can add to a debate is overshadowed by the volume of hate and anger that she spews. But then again if my job was to make a profit for a media company I might be forced to take a different view. The bottom line is money, as usual. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 June 29, 2007 QuoteQuote I assert that those that are close to the truth with thier comments get more shit back than those that are way off target. I'll both agree and disagree with that. If a Democrat were to flat out state: "During the march to war President Bush said that Iraq had WMD's. Saddam said that Bush was wrong and that the war was over different reasons. Apparently Saddam was the one who was telling the US citizens the truth and Bush feeding us a line of crap." I'd expect him to catch a ration of public abuse. What was said was absolutely true but it's a bit too blunt. However I'd also expect someone to be publicly abused they claimed that another political party was genetically inferior and deserved extermination. That statement is completely false and very hateful. One of those statements is close to the truth, the other offers nothing of value, yet both will greeted with a public outcry. IMO, what little actual content she can add to a debate is overshadowed by the volume of hate and anger that she spews. But then again if my job was to make a profit for a media company I might be forced to take a different view. The bottom line is money, as usual. Well, were are not to far apart except for the hate and anger. Both sides are using lables and polictical correctness to stiffle debate and disagreement. (the fairness doctrine topic is no different) I beleive she is taking that tactic head on. I also believe names and lables and hatred talk are used when one has no response to what has been said (not refering to you or this thread). This once again demonstrates how close to the truth the words are."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #29 June 29, 2007 QuoteIMO, what little actual content she can add to a debate is overshadowed by the volume of hate and anger that she spews. If you actually read what she writes (other than the inflamatory snippets that get so much attention, you might see she's actually pretty smart and has some insightful (as opposed to inciteful) stuff to say. Unfortunately, her inciteful statements get all the attention. Also unfortunate, IMO she slathers it on regularly. I rarely read her stuff....got tired of the cheap jabs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #30 June 29, 2007 Quote If you actually read what she writes (other than the inflamatory snippets that get so much attention, you might see she's actually pretty smart and has some insightful (as opposed to inciteful) stuff to say. Unfortunately, her inciteful statements get all the attention. Also unfortunate, IMO she slathers it on regularly. I rarely read her stuff....got tired of the cheap jabs. Maybe she does have some interesting ideas. But I'll never know because I don't want to feed the beast, except for maybe some thread posts on DZ.comAnd for the record, I don't watch the Jerry Springer or Maury Povich shows either. They offer equal societal contributions. Honestly, I'm embarrassed at what we broadcast into space. No wonder the aliens are leaving us alone. They're waiting for us to evolve a bit more Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 June 29, 2007 QuoteI rarely read her stuff....got tired of the cheap jabs. I read one book of hers a couple years ago. Lot's of good stuff, fully researched, backed up etc. however, 1 - 80% was tirade and incite 2 - the overall conclusion, in essence was analogous to a Whoopi Goldberg standup routine. "The other party? They suck, they are stupid, they are ignorant, they do bad things on purpose, I hate them. I HATE THEM. I HATE THEM. I HATE THEM. I HATE THEM. I HATE THEM. I HATE THEM. I HATE THEM." that's enough to learn to sit through the first bits of her stuff, and then, when her pupils start to dilate, switch stations, burn the book, whatever - there won't be anything after that point. I can get that with half the posters here - and from both parties. I'm assuming that today, she, like most in the genre (right and left) now just skip straight to the finale. It's easier to prep. Pushing emotional buttons is a great money maker though. I wish I could find a cushy job like that that paid so well. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #32 June 29, 2007 Quote I wish I could find a cushy job like that that paid so well. Preferably one that doesn't cause a third of the population to detest you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #33 June 29, 2007 Quote Quote I wish I could find a cushy job like that that paid so well. Preferably one that doesn't cause a third of the population to detest you. impossible - don't care - if you are in the public eye it can't be helped - the anonymity thing guarantees that those that need someone to detest will find a target ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #34 June 29, 2007 How about Oprah? She's pretty well liked. Actually, I watched about 20 minutes of her show last night... Faith Hill was her guest. I'm guessing the number of people who hate Faith is pretty small. What's not to like????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #35 June 29, 2007 Quote Faith Hill was her guest. I'm guessing the number of people who hate Faith is pretty small. What's not to like????? She changed her long beautiful hair to a shorter "low maintenance" haircut. Now she's only partially hot. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 June 30, 2007 ....I watched about 20 minutes of her show last night... Quote You now have to go through decontamination "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #37 June 30, 2007 Quote How about Oprah? She's pretty well liked. Actually, I watched about 20 minutes of her show last night... I wonder who is on the cover of The Oprah's magazine this month?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites