Newbie 0 #1 June 25, 2007 with absolute bull shite like this... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6238364.stm On the flipside of the coin, sometimes i freaking love you Yanks when you not only: a) vote in favour of the defendant in what is obviously a plaintiff taking the living piss b) call for the plaintiff to be disbarred and demand a tough line to be taken. America. Admittedly a place you can easily love to hate and easily hate to admit that f***ing love it! "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #2 June 25, 2007 ninja7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 June 25, 2007 Yeah, now the plaintiff may well lose his shirt on that one.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 June 25, 2007 How many threads do we need for one topic? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2861036;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #5 June 25, 2007 QuoteHow many threads do we need for one topic? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2861036;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread I didn't see that thread, you have no evidence i previously saw that thread, and considering that you didn't show me that thread before i posted my thread, and that as a result of not showing me that thread before i posted my thread, i have had to read other threads thereby taking a good 30mins out of my evening of free time, i feel it's my duty to sue you for approximately $48million for the inconvenience. Please expect a letter from my lawyer tomorrow thank you come again. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 June 25, 2007 on the other side of the coin, we don't have nuts trying to create and impose motorcycle airbags on us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bozo 0 #7 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote How many threads do we need for one topic? http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2861036;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread I didn't see that thread, you have no evidence i previously saw that thread, and considering that you didn't show me that thread before i posted my thread, and that as a result of not showing me that thread before i posted my thread, i have had to read other threads thereby taking a good 30mins out of my evening of free time, i feel it's my duty to sue you for approximately $48million for the inconvenience. Please expect a letter from my lawyer tomorrow thank you come again. Thats just why you Brits sicken me. bozo Pain is fleeting. Glory lasts forever. Chicks dig scars. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #8 June 26, 2007 Our claims and sue culture is just as bad... One mans claim doesnt reflect the whole society necessarily. Shit the amount of "injury lawyers 4 u" crap you see on adverts and loan cos people spend too much. Just as bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #9 June 26, 2007 Quote I didn't see that thread, you have no evidence i previously saw that thread, and considering that you didn't show me that thread before i posted my thread, and that as a result of not showing me that thread before i posted my thread, i have had to read other threads thereby taking a good 30mins out of my evening of free time, i feel it's my duty to sue you for approximately $48million for the inconvenience. Please expect a letter from my lawyer tomorrow thank you come again. This calls for criminal penalties as well. Punishment: Force him to eat British food for one year "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverborg 0 #10 June 26, 2007 I can't help but believe our sue happy culture and all the liability bs that comes with it, is gonna be downfall of our economy at some time. This shit only hurts the consumers and only helps the lawyers when you look at the big picture. Granted this lawsuit was a little extreme, but in a way it paints a satirical picture of our society that is not that far off. I was in an accident a week and a half ago where a young kid hit me while making an illegal turn. We were both probably going less than 10mph. There was very light damage to my vehicle and will only require replacement of my door. I just got two letters in the mail from two different lawyers that read the accident report and said to give them a call. Give me a break. Let their insurance fix my car and move on. I thought about calling the lawyers just to tell them how I really felt about them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #11 June 26, 2007 I'da been sick too if he'da won, but the judge ruled against him. So, in this case, I'm not sickened myself. Can't figure out why you are. Because the plaintiff's a freak? I don't think we have any monopoly on that. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #12 June 26, 2007 I'm still kinda sick. In England this lawsuit wouldn't have even happened. The Claimant would have been required to take the action in the Small Claims Court where he wouldn't have been awarded any legal costs even if he won. His damages would be capped to the value of the lost suit - no prospect of $2,000,000 for mental anguish over loosing a pair of trousers! And it wouldn't have taken 2 years either; more like a couple of months at the most. This poor bugger of a Defendant walked out of court with a $1,000 costs order against the Claimant. They spent 2 years paying attorneys and they walk out of court with just $1,000 to pay them?? They now have to pay attorneys more money to find out if they can recoup any more of their costs?? That's a joke. Had this thing gone to an English court for $54,000,000 and the Defendant won after having previously offered $12,000 to settle, they would have walked out of court with an order for the Claimant to pay ALL of their costs on an indemnity basis. The precise figure would still be worked out later, but that would be the Claimant's problem to argue it out with their lawyers; no longer something that need concern the Defendants. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #13 June 26, 2007 I find it ridiculous that lawyers are calling for him to be disbarred because the case has harmed the image of the American legal system. The fact that it was possible is what harmed the system. The financial devastation caused by this and the routine financial intimidation & brinkmanship ROUTINELY used by lawyers with no case in the US is something all these scumbags know about and employ. Now all of a sudden they demand disbarment. Would the case have been any less ruinous for the defendants if the figure hadn't been so high and it hadn't hit the headlines? What if he'd sued for $30k for a pair of trousers would they have been forced to settle like millions of other Americans? And doesn't their business insurance cover this where all of us routinely pay for this in the end. It is just amazing the rank hypocrisy of lawyers calling for disbarment. Why the hell was this allowed to go on for 2 years? All these weasels lobbied like crazy and fought tooth & claw against tort reform for their own self interests and they're suddenly outraged, because a guy draws attention to the abuse of power that they ROUTINELY engage in as they polish their veneer of "ethics". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #14 June 27, 2007 Two words... TORT REFORM mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #15 June 27, 2007 Quote ..I didn't see that thread, you have no evidence i previously saw that thread, and considering that you didn't show me that thread before i posted my thread, and that as a result of not showing me that thread before i posted my thread, i have had to read other threads thereby taking a good 30mins out of my evening of free time, i feel it's my duty to sue you for approximately $48million for the inconvenience. Please expect a letter from my lawyer tomorrow thank you come again. OMG, you Brits are OK in my book even if you can't spell SHIT correctly.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #16 June 27, 2007 Well, that all depends upon what colour the shite is (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdlike 0 #17 July 7, 2007 Wait wait wait, let's not pretend that only the "yanks" have a sick court system. It was in England, after Tony Martin defended himself from the umpteenth burglary of his residence/farm, that he shot and killed one burglar and wounded another. And then, he was sentenced to life in prison for murder. (Sentence later overturned and lessened.) And THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT not only gave the burglar funds and guidance on how to sue Mr. Martin, IT ASKED FOR THE CRIMINAL BURGLAR'S INPUT ON WHAT PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO MR. MARTIN! I'm sorry, but if I am victimized, and I defend myself, and I possibly go too far in doing so, that doesn't mean that the guy who attacked me first should be asked how I should be punished. That's demented.Spirits fly on dangerous missions Imaginations on fire Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #18 July 7, 2007 And what would you expect when you have a society that reveres a bunch of no good fucktards that royalty is... "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #19 July 7, 2007 Did you loose your daddy in the Falklands or something When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #20 July 7, 2007 No, but I say "good bye" to few of your relatives a couple of months ago "According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #21 July 9, 2007 This poor bugger of a Defendant walked out of court with a $1,000 costs order against the Claimant. They spent 2 years paying attorneys and they walk out of court with just $1,000 to pay them?? They now have to pay attorneys more money to find out if they can recoup any more of their costs?? That's a joke. That's pretty piss poor. They should have been awarded their attorney's fees. But that's not the system as much as the ruling, imho.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #22 July 9, 2007 QuoteWait wait wait, let's not pretend that only the "yanks" have a sick court system. It was in England, after Tony Martin defended himself from the umpteenth burglary of his residence/farm, that he shot and killed one burglar and wounded another. And then, he was sentenced to life in prison for murder. (Sentence later overturned and lessened.) And THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT not only gave the burglar funds and guidance on how to sue Mr. Martin, IT ASKED FOR THE CRIMINAL BURGLAR'S INPUT ON WHAT PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE GIVEN TO MR. MARTIN! I'm sorry, but if I am victimized, and I defend myself, and I possibly go too far in doing so, that doesn't mean that the guy who attacked me first should be asked how I should be punished. That's demented. If you shoot someone in the back as they flee the scene of the crime in the US, i'm pretty sure we are safe in the knowledge you would be tried for murder there too. Cold blooded killing, no matter how many times you have been the victim of crime doesn't cut the mustard when you shoot someone in the back, end of story, sorry. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #23 July 9, 2007 Well, that is a point were a lot of people even in your own land beg to differ. Some call it murder, some just the right of self defence. What were those robbers doing inside his property, when the owners also were inside?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #24 July 10, 2007 QuoteWell, that is a point were a lot of people even in your own land beg to differ. Some call it murder, some just the right of self defence. What were those robbers doing inside his property, when the owners also were inside? The law is quite clear and opinions don't come into it. If you shoot someone in the back, it's murder. How is it going to be argued as self defence when someone is not posing a threat, which is exactly what the case was in Tony Martins situation. I'm all in favour of using whatever level of force is needed to stop someone who is burgalarising your property and threatening you or anyone inside you home to fear for their own lives - but when they are making out the back window with the giro book and not posing a threat? People can have their different opinions but the law is quite clear on that one i'm afraid (both here and in the US). "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
