flyaway3 0 #1 June 24, 2007 Do a lot of you see Christianity at your dropzones, or do you believe that majority of skydivers do not have any sort of belief? If so what is your definition of a Christian person, and do you think that they are representing Christianity in a positive way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #2 June 24, 2007 QuoteDo a lot of you see Christianity at your dropzones, or do you believe that majority of skydivers do not have any sort of belief? If so what is your definition of a Christian person, and do you think that they are representing Christianity in a positive way? I think mostly people go to the DZ to jump and party and hang out and get away from their normal day-to-day existence. I don't think the topic of religion comes up all that often at DZs. I know some very dedicated Christians who skydive and I think highly of all of them. They don't talk much about their faith, though, unless it comes up in conversation. I think some Christians are very hesitant to talk about their faith at the DZ for fear of being treated differently, being assumed to be judgemental of others, or making others feel like they have to modify their language or behavior around them. Overall, I think most skydivers are not people of faith. Personally, I am an atheist but I have absolutely no problem with respecting others' beliefs. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 June 24, 2007 I couldn't give a toss. If I like ya, I'll jump with ya. If you believe stuff and want a yak about .... do it in freefall NOT the bar. - Thankyou. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #4 June 24, 2007 Quote I couldn't give a toss. If I like ya, I'll jump with ya. If you believe stuff and want a yak about .... do it in freefall NOT the bar. - Thankyou. What's wrong with someone talking about their faith in the bar? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 June 24, 2007 I dont want to listen, that's all. .... Now, whos round is it? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #6 June 24, 2007 QuoteI dont want to listen, that's all. .... Now, whos round is it? Fair enough. Personally I don't mind if someone discusses their faith but if they try and convert me to their thinking or go on and on and on about stuff about scripture they lose my attention pretty quickly because the topic just doesn't interest me all that much. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #7 June 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteI dont want to listen, that's all. .... Now, whos round is it? Fair enough. Personally I don't mind if someone discusses their faith but if they try and convert me to their thinking or go on and on and on about stuff about scripture they lose my attention pretty quickly because the topic just doesn't interest me all that much. Walt I simple fact that often seems to escape fundamentalists, is that in order for a conversation to occur, the topic of conversation needs to be of interest to both parties."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #8 June 24, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI dont want to listen, that's all. .... Now, whos round is it? Fair enough. Personally I don't mind if someone discusses their faith but if they try and convert me to their thinking or go on and on and on about stuff about scripture they lose my attention pretty quickly because the topic just doesn't interest me all that much. Walt I simple fact that often seems to escape fundamentalists, is that in order for a conversation to occur, the topic of conversation needs to be of interest to both parties. Many feel compelled to convince non-believers. From their point of view they are trying to help people avoid a horrible fate--somewhat like a friend trying to not let a friend drive drunk. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiccoli 0 #9 June 24, 2007 QuoteIf so what is your definition of a Christian person, and do you think that they are representing Christianity in a positive way? society seems to define christianity more as a nationality or tradition these days,rather than a way of life. in other words, if you grow up in a christian family your assumed christian by heredity regardless of how devoted you are. when it comes to any religion, i dont think you can actualy consider yourself a legitimate member unless your devoted to following its teachings according to your understandings of them. i see many people claiming themselves to be this or that, but dont produce the fruits to show for it. kind of like politics i guess. this is why i think the claim that the united states is a true christian nation is asanine. when it comes to skydiving, in the short time ive been involved in the sport ive come to conclude that im a minority as a devoted christian. has it kept me from enjoying it? of course not. ive made good aquintances of many mentalities. i can keep to my beliefs, but still enjoy their company, as long as your not out there shaking your bible at everyone. besides, the trick is to lure them in slowly at first, and them baptize them in their sleep. every seasoned christian knows that. trivial scripture recitings are for amateurs.we need to talk about your flare.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #10 June 24, 2007 QuoteDo a lot of you see Christianity at your dropzones, or do you believe that majority of skydivers do not have any sort of belief? The only time I can remember being aware of Christianity at the dropzone is once when there was a group of people with some sort of "Christian skydivers" t-shirts on. QuoteIf so what is your definition of a Christian person Anyone who calls themselves a Christian, which means that the word has little meaning to me. Quotedo you think that they are representing Christianity in a positive way? The group of Christian skydivers were acting pretty much like any of the other skydivers, so I guess they were representing Christianity in a neutral way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #11 June 24, 2007 QuotePersonally I don't mind if someone discusses their faith but if they try and convert me to their thinking or go on and on and on about stuff about scripture they lose my attention pretty quickly because the topic just doesn't interest me all that much. I was brought up with pretty much no religion so actually I enjoy hearing other people discuss it because it is something I have no real understanding of yet find fascinating. Not a big fan of the ones who try to convert me but I enjoy hearing about it. Strangely I find that sometimes when I ask people about their religion they get somewhat put off by it so I have a hard time getting that conversation. Not sure why. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #12 June 25, 2007 Quote Do a lot of you see Christianity at your dropzones, or do you believe that majority of skydivers do not have any sort of belief? Do you mean seeing a lot of Christian religious activity, like having the whole load praying Jesus on the way up, or studying the Bible after sunset load? Or you mean something else?* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #13 June 25, 2007 No, there is not a huge precense of christians in the skydiving community, however, there are christians who skydive. I've recently found a little group for christian skydivers, if you want to check them out. I have a patch on my jumpsuit! CSA HERECLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d_squared431 0 #14 June 25, 2007 QuoteDo a lot of you see Christianity at your dropzones, or do you believe that majority of skydivers do not have any sort of belief? If so what is your definition of a Christian person, and do you think that they are representing Christianity in a positive way? I think any person from any religion represent their faith in a positive way regardless what activities they participate in. I don't preach to anyone about my beliefs and what faith I am. Christianity to me isn't about making others believe what you believe in. It is an individual connection you have with God.TPM Sister#130ONTIG#1 I love vodka.I love vodka cause it rhymes with Tuaca~LisaH You having a clean thought is like billyvance having a clean post.iluvtofly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #15 June 25, 2007 I am an atheist working on a dropzone owned by Christians. We have some other Christians working on the DZ but I really don't see it flavouring the DZ much. We have one Christian pilot and one Muslim (heritage) pilot. I like to think I live in a tolerant community of friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
souleh 0 #16 June 25, 2007 Quote one Muslim (heritage) pilot. And he hasn't tried to fly your plane through the side of th e hangar yet?? Wonders will never cease. 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 June 25, 2007 Quote ...we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 The sky is a church in its own right.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
