NCclimber 0 #301 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Tried that some 60 posts ago. Didn't work. And which post are you talking about, in which you asked for the source of the quoted article? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #302 June 22, 2007 Quote Then ask for a source. Generally speaking, it's more constructive than resorting to ad hominem attacks and projecting onto the other person one's interpretation of their underlying motivation for quoting an article. Did you try that approach in high school English or any college writing course? Citation is a given practice, both there and here. It's hardly new to you, so again I question the motivations. Quote Quote Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. It's common practice to do so when reporting government numbers, i.e. housing starts, foreclosures, new jobs, interest rates, trade imbalance, consumer sentiment, manufacturing, government spending, the budget deficit, etc. The deficit isn't the same as housing starts or jobs. The latter are thousands/millions of different entities acting on their own. The government is a single spending body. And if it uses a good first Q to justify blowing more money in the 4th, we're no better off. For unimportant reasons, my brokerage had to move my accounts to new numbers, and would be dropping my history in the process. So this week I've been printing out the records from 2002-2007. And what I review confirms the point that seems to be lost of those that defend Bush against anything bad he might be associated with. The last year of the stock market has been great. But the prior 5 years was basically a valley. Everything went down, and then recovered. So if you invested (or started paying attention to the world) 3 years ago, you'd think the economy is great. If you invested 7 years ago or before, you'd be pretty unimpressed with the market during the Bush terms. And you'd remain unimpressed that he's finally gotten a semblance of budget control. The last thing you'd think is that he proved the Laffer Curve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #303 June 22, 2007 Kallend - with all your bitching about providing sources, you'd DAMN well better not tell ANYONE to "look it up themselves" ever again. You'd think that people that can instantly come up with umpteen sites to refute anything that even LOOKS like good news for the current administration would be able to use google to enter a search of "record tax receipts". http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-02-12-federal-deficit_x.htm http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/1693.html http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070510/federal_budget.htmlMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #304 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Then ask for a source. Generally speaking, it's more constructive than resorting to ad hominem attacks and projecting onto the other person one's interpretation of their underlying motivation for quoting an article. Did you try that approach in high school English or any college writing course? Citation is a given practice, both there and here. It's hardly new to you, so again I question the motivations. You made a claim. I posted information, that is easily available, with no commentary about it. You, in turn, reply with: Quote Wow - that's quite a fantasy world you got going - proud of a deficit that is only 150B for the first 8 months of the year. (yet includes April, when receipts spike) I myself would wait till the year end accounting to be remotely pleased that we only ran a deficit of nearly $1000 per living American. What would your high school English teacher say about your response? Oh yeah, sourcing work on a college paper is mandatory. Comparing posts here to that practice is just silly. About all that other stuff - comparing government spending/deficits to the same from 12 months ago is not unusual.... and if you want to look at the health of the stock market, look at several timeframes, not just the one comparing now to the last historic top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #305 June 22, 2007 Quote About all that other stuff - comparing government spending/deficits to the same from 12 months ago is not unusual.... and if you want to look at the health of the stock market, look at several timeframes, not just the one comparing now to the last historic top. We couple look at the timeframe for each of the last dozen Presidents, separated by party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #306 June 25, 2007 Quote Quote About all that other stuff - comparing government spending/deficits to the same from 12 months ago is not unusual.... and if you want to look at the health of the stock market, look at several timeframes, not just the one comparing now to the last historic top. We couple look at the timeframe for each of the last dozen Presidents, separated by party. We could... especially if we were having a civil discussion on the subject... instead of one person posting a news excerpt and the other inferring a bunch of nonsense from it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
