NCclimber 0 #276 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote The White House said we were going to pay for the war in Iraq with Iraqi oil? Quote please. I tried earlier but you didn't seem to like it. How about this one from Wolfy in 2003? "There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. ... The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 billion and $100 billion over the course of the next two to three years. ... We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Please help me understand how you see this as funding for the U.S. military. Please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #277 June 21, 2007 Quote So what do YOU think Wolfowitz meant? That Iraqi soybeans would pay for the war? Cattle? Tomatoes? Sounds like he meant Iraqi oil would help finance the reconstruction of Iraq. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like you have to make a few really big leaps to conclude he was talking about using their oil to pay for our military.Then again, some people think Colin Powell intentionally tried to cover up the My Lai massacre. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,571 #278 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteThe White House said we were going to pay for the war in Iraq with Iraqi oil? Quote please. I tried earlier but you didn't seem to like it. How about this one from Wolfy in 2003? "There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. ... The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 billion and $100 billion over the course of the next two to three years. ... We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Please help me understand how you see this as funding for the U.S. military. So the US military is in no way involved with the (heh) nation building going on in Iraq?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #279 June 21, 2007 Quote So the US military is in no way involved with the (heh) nation building going on in Iraq? There's a hop... Can I get a skip... and a jump? This is shaping up like the old "Bin Laden was trained by the CIA" discussions. Good stuff, indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #280 June 21, 2007 QuoteBefore the righties ask for a cite, that was from Wolfowitz's testimony to Congress, March 27, 2003. Why bother.. it does not jibe with right wing fantasy land....seems they convieniently forget a LOT of what got us into Dick and George's excellent adventure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #281 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteBefore the righties ask for a cite, that was from Wolfowitz's testimony to Congress, March 27, 2003. Why bother.. it does not jibe with right wing fantasy land....seems they convieniently forget a LOT of what got us into Dick and George's excellent adventure. Speaking of fantasy, your assertion about Iraqi oil being used to pay for the war is a real laugher. Generally speaking, half truths are intended to leave a lot of room for the imagination. It's amazing where people can go with the well crafted ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,571 #282 June 21, 2007 Huh? Look, I don't in any way think that the purpose of the Iraq war was to steal Iraqi oil revenue. However its equally stubborn to stick resolutely to the other side of the equation and say that the administration never in any way intended to use oil revenues to partially offset the military cost of the occupation.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #283 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote I tried earlier but you didn't seem to like it. How about this one from Wolfy in 2003? "There's a lot of money to pay for this that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money, and it starts with the assets of the Iraqi people. ... The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 billion and $100 billion over the course of the next two to three years. ... We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon." Please help me understand how you see this as funding for the U.S. military. Please. This is getting pretty desperate. You're breaking out the scalpel now to try to carve out an argument. I thought were were talking about "paying for the Iraq war". I'll help you understand. It's money that is appropriated for the DoD so that they can keep paying for the war. Seems to me that when Congress is supposed to be coming up with the cash it's all "money for the troops". But since you bring it up, I'd love to see how that money is allocated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #284 June 21, 2007 QuoteHuh? Look, I don't in any way think that the purpose of the Iraq war was to steal Iraqi oil revenue. However its equally stubborn to stick resolutely to the other side of the equation and say that the administration never in any way intended to use oil revenues to partially offset the military cost of the occupation. I agree. I don't think that they intended to steal their revenue but I do think that controlling who controlled it is more to the point. Since I'm finding Wolfowitz quotes on this subject I thought I'd throw this one in. Asked why a nuclear power such as North Korea was being treated differently from Iraq, where hardly any weapons of mass destruction had been found, the deputy defence minister said: "Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil." http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1369424,00.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #285 June 21, 2007 QuoteSpeaking of fantasy, your assertion about Iraqi oil being used to pay for the war is a real laugher. Tsk Tsk Tsk http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2132574.ece Before the war, Mr Bush endorsed claims that Iraq's oil would pay for reconstruction. But the shortage of revenues afterwards has silenced him on this point. More recently he has argued that oil should be used as a means to unify the country, "so the people have faith in central government", as he put it last summer. Despite US and British denials that oil was a war aim, American troops were detailed to secure oil facilities as they fought their way to Baghdad in 2003. And while former defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld shrugged off the orgy of looting after the fall of Saddam's statue in Baghdad, the Oil Ministry - alone of all the seats of power in the Iraqi capital - was under American guard. Halliburton, the firm that Dick Cheney used to run, was among US-based multinationals that won most of the reconstruction deals - one of its workers is pictured, tackling an oil fire. British firms won some contracts, mainly in security. But constant violence has crippled rebuilding operations. Bechtel, another US giant, has pulled out, saying it could not make a profit on work in Iraq. LOTS of very intersting information in that article you will not read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #286 June 21, 2007 Using Iraqi assets to pay for Iraqi reconstruction = using Iraqi assets to pay for U.S. war. Got it.I don't see problem using Iraqi assets to help rebuild Iraq. I would have a major problem using those assets to fund our military. As far as I know, nothing of this nature has been implemented,... or even proposed. All this is a far cry from Amazon's claim about Iraqi oil paying for the war in Iraq. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #287 June 21, 2007 Quote LOTS of very intersting information in that article you will not read. You frequently claim I don't read the articles you link. Here's a news flash, just because I don't agree with your "unique" interpretation of a story's content, doen't mean I didn't read the story. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #288 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote LOTS of very intersting information in that article you will not read. You frequently claim I don't read the articles you link. Here's a news flash, just because I don't agree with your "unique" interpretation of a story's content, doen't mean I didn't read the story. This was a fun exchange to watch! thanks for taking the lead"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #289 June 21, 2007 Quote This was a fun exchange to watch! thanks for taking the lead Did you read it...????? or are you waiting for Lush Rimjopb to excert it for you on the EIB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #290 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuote But since the GOP had both houses for the past 12 years According to who? Arianna Huffington? Markos Moulitsas? I know you guys are denying all sort of obvious facts, but surely you'll recall Newt's contract with America that gave the GOP control of Congress from Jan 1995 till Jan 2007. It's hard to have a serious conversation with people who reject facts like this, or the existence of inflation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #291 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote But since the GOP had both houses for the past 12 years According to who? Arianna Huffington? Markos Moulitsas? I know you guys are denying all sort of obvious facts, but surely you'll recall Newt's contract with America that gave the GOP control of Congress from Jan 1995 till Jan 2007. It's hard to have a serious conversation with people who reject facts like this, or the existence of inflation. Ever heard of Tom Daschle? Who claimed inflation doesn't exist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #292 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote But since the GOP had both houses for the past 12 years According to who? Arianna Huffington? Markos Moulitsas? I know you guys are denying all sort of obvious facts, but surely you'll recall Newt's contract with America that gave the GOP control of Congress from Jan 1995 till Jan 2007. It's hard to have a serious conversation with people who reject facts like this, or the existence of inflation. Where did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? It's also hard to hold a serious conversation with all the hyperbole (admittedly from both sides, but the Dems are Grand Masters at it).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #293 June 21, 2007 QuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #294 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,120 #295 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player. In my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. One thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #296 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player. In my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. One thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account. On this we can agree!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #297 June 21, 2007 QuoteIn my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you made 5000 LAST year, and 7000 THIS year, wouldn't you be better off?? QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The deficit for the first four months of the current budget year is down sharply from the same period a year ago as the government continues to benefit from record levels of tax collections. The Treasury Department reported Monday that the deficit for the budget year that began Oct. 1 totals $42.2 billion, down 57.2% from the same period a year ago. QuoteIf you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. QuoteOne thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account. I've NEVER said that Bush and Congress *haven't* been out of control on spending.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #298 June 22, 2007 QuoteThen discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. This says AP, so with luck and too much effort, we might find the article. Makes me wonder what details of it you're concealing. Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. Let's see the 5 year trend line. Wait to see if Congress has to pass another Iraq spending resolution too, since that's usually not on the planned budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #299 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Generally speaking, it's more constructive than resorting to ad hominem attacks and projecting onto the other person one's interpretation of their underlying motivation for quoting an article. Quote This says AP, so with luck and too much effort, we might find the article. Makes me wonder what details of it you're concealing. Ask for a link. Quote Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. It's common practice to do so when reporting government numbers, i.e. housing starts, foreclosures, new jobs, interest rates, trade imbalance, consumer sentiment, manufacturing, government spending, the budget deficit, etc. Quote Let's see the 5 year trend line. It looks pretty good for the last three years. The three years before that? Not so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,120 #300 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Tried that some 60 posts ago. Didn't work.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Next Page 12 of 13 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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NCclimber 0 #291 June 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote But since the GOP had both houses for the past 12 years According to who? Arianna Huffington? Markos Moulitsas? I know you guys are denying all sort of obvious facts, but surely you'll recall Newt's contract with America that gave the GOP control of Congress from Jan 1995 till Jan 2007. It's hard to have a serious conversation with people who reject facts like this, or the existence of inflation. Ever heard of Tom Daschle? Who claimed inflation doesn't exist? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #292 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote But since the GOP had both houses for the past 12 years According to who? Arianna Huffington? Markos Moulitsas? I know you guys are denying all sort of obvious facts, but surely you'll recall Newt's contract with America that gave the GOP control of Congress from Jan 1995 till Jan 2007. It's hard to have a serious conversation with people who reject facts like this, or the existence of inflation. Where did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? It's also hard to hold a serious conversation with all the hyperbole (admittedly from both sides, but the Dems are Grand Masters at it).Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #293 June 21, 2007 QuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #294 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,120 #295 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player. In my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. One thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #296 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player. In my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. One thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account. On this we can agree!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mnealtx 0 #297 June 21, 2007 QuoteIn my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you made 5000 LAST year, and 7000 THIS year, wouldn't you be better off?? QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The deficit for the first four months of the current budget year is down sharply from the same period a year ago as the government continues to benefit from record levels of tax collections. The Treasury Department reported Monday that the deficit for the budget year that began Oct. 1 totals $42.2 billion, down 57.2% from the same period a year ago. QuoteIf you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. QuoteOne thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account. I've NEVER said that Bush and Congress *haven't* been out of control on spending.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #298 June 22, 2007 QuoteThen discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. This says AP, so with luck and too much effort, we might find the article. Makes me wonder what details of it you're concealing. Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. Let's see the 5 year trend line. Wait to see if Congress has to pass another Iraq spending resolution too, since that's usually not on the planned budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NCclimber 0 #299 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Generally speaking, it's more constructive than resorting to ad hominem attacks and projecting onto the other person one's interpretation of their underlying motivation for quoting an article. Quote This says AP, so with luck and too much effort, we might find the article. Makes me wonder what details of it you're concealing. Ask for a link. Quote Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. It's common practice to do so when reporting government numbers, i.e. housing starts, foreclosures, new jobs, interest rates, trade imbalance, consumer sentiment, manufacturing, government spending, the budget deficit, etc. Quote Let's see the 5 year trend line. It looks pretty good for the last three years. The three years before that? Not so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,120 #300 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Tried that some 60 posts ago. Didn't work.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Next Page 12 of 13 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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kelpdiver 2 #293 June 21, 2007 QuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #294 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #295 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player. In my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. One thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #296 June 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteWhere did anyone say that inflation doesn't exist? Did I miss something? well, when you acknowledge that 'record tax receipts' means nothing, I'll retract it. *shakes head* Still haven't done that google search yet, hmm? Play the ball, not the player. In my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. One thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account. On this we can agree!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #297 June 21, 2007 QuoteIn my first job, in 1970, I made roughly $5,000 for the year. According to your logic, if I make $7,000 in 2007 I will be far better off. SURE! If you made 5000 LAST year, and 7000 THIS year, wouldn't you be better off?? QuoteWASHINGTON (AP) — The deficit for the first four months of the current budget year is down sharply from the same period a year ago as the government continues to benefit from record levels of tax collections. The Treasury Department reported Monday that the deficit for the budget year that began Oct. 1 totals $42.2 billion, down 57.2% from the same period a year ago. QuoteIf you do not correct for inflation and population growth, revenue and spending comparisons from year to year are meaningless. Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. QuoteOne thing that is for sure, Bush has gone on a spending spree, even after inflation is taken into account. I've NEVER said that Bush and Congress *haven't* been out of control on spending.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #298 June 22, 2007 QuoteThen discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. This says AP, so with luck and too much effort, we might find the article. Makes me wonder what details of it you're concealing. Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. Let's see the 5 year trend line. Wait to see if Congress has to pass another Iraq spending resolution too, since that's usually not on the planned budget. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #299 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Generally speaking, it's more constructive than resorting to ad hominem attacks and projecting onto the other person one's interpretation of their underlying motivation for quoting an article. Quote This says AP, so with luck and too much effort, we might find the article. Makes me wonder what details of it you're concealing. Ask for a link. Quote Year to incomplete year isn't a good idea. It's common practice to do so when reporting government numbers, i.e. housing starts, foreclosures, new jobs, interest rates, trade imbalance, consumer sentiment, manufacturing, government spending, the budget deficit, etc. Quote Let's see the 5 year trend line. It looks pretty good for the last three years. The three years before that? Not so good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,120 #300 June 22, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Then discuss it with the people that REPORTED it, or refute the ARTICLE - I'm merely passing on what THEY said. How can we - you don't give a source. Then ask for a source. Tried that some 60 posts ago. Didn't work.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
