souleh 0 #176 June 13, 2007 They can't be. There are some 2.1 billion Christians worldwide. Truth in numbers; it's like a giant theistic wikipedia - voting for the truth! 'buttplugs? where?' - geno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #177 June 13, 2007 QuoteI know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?" And if the koran is true what will happen to you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #178 June 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteI know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?" And if the koran is true what will happen to you? True about what? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #179 June 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteI know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?" And if the koran is true what will happen to you? True about what? You're not very good at evasion. Everyone knows what is meant, including you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #180 June 13, 2007 QuoteTrue about what? True. In the same sense that you would say the bible is true.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #181 June 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteTrue about what? True. In the same sense that you would say the bible is true. True in what? True in its historicity? True in its reliability? True in its interpretation? True in what it says about its main character? True in how it deals with the problem of sin? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #182 June 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou would have a better answer then I. I don't believe any of it. I think I know what you answer would be, but it really doesn't matter to me at all. Your arguments lack any substance since they are all based on faith. I know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?" You already answered your question earlier. By your rules I would be guilty just as you. But of course you believe so by your rules you are exempt. It's all very silly. There is very little difference between mythology and religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #183 June 13, 2007 Quote You're not very good at evasion. And some around here are in a class by themselves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #184 June 13, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteTrue about what? True. In the same sense that you would say the bible is true. True in what? True in its historicity? True in its reliability? True in its interpretation? True in what it says about its main character? True in how it deals with the problem of sin? True. True in exactly the same sense as you meant when you said "I know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?""Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #185 June 13, 2007 Do you ever think for yourself? Think how pissed God will be at you when he realises how much you contributed to polluting his planet to jump out of planes for shits and giggles. You could have used that time to nurse injured orphans or preach the tales of God's impending judgement. That would have really got you in his good books Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #186 June 13, 2007 that's not the point tho', especially with the Catholic religion. Even if you led a great life, helped the needy, and did everything you could to be a good person - if you sinned, and never asked for forgiveness and never accpeted Jesus into your life as your Saviour, then you will still burn in hell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #187 June 13, 2007 Where did god come from? Simple that question is what we call a no brainer. The answer..................the human mind."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #188 June 13, 2007 >Simple that question is what we call a no brainer. >The answer..................the human mind. Wouldn't that make it a brainer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #189 June 13, 2007 (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #190 June 13, 2007 QuoteWouldn't that make it a brainer? The answer yes but the question NO It is quite obvious from where I am standing."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #191 June 13, 2007 Quote To one who examines the evidence, there can be no doubt that God exists. Every building has a builder. Everything made has a maker. if everything has a maker, then god has a maker too, and god's maker has a maker etc. so who made god's maker's maker's maker? O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #192 June 13, 2007 Every building has a builder. Everything made has a maker Maybe everything wasn't "made." Perhaps it simply is. It just could be that it's more complex than you or I understand. My lack of capacity to understand doesn't make me assign omnipotent qualities to a hypothetical god. Examining the evidence, that's what I come up with. I highly doubt that God exists.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,114 #193 June 13, 2007 >My lack of capacity to understand doesn't make me assign >omnipotent qualities to a hypothetical god. This is the classic argument from personal incredulity. "I do not understand how this could be; therefore, God did it." Fortunately we've been whittling away at the things we don't understand. Sometimes it takes a while, but eventually we come to believe that a round earth, a limitless heaven, the ability to fly, evolution, planetary formation etc do not "eliminate" religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #194 June 13, 2007 Quote Quote To one who examines the evidence, there can be no doubt that God exists. Every building has a builder. Everything made has a maker. if everything has a maker, then god has a maker too, and god's maker has a maker etc. so who made god's maker's maker's maker? O Whoa, all that talk about makers is making me wish I had some Maker's Mark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #195 June 13, 2007 Sometimes it takes a while, but eventually we come to believe that a round earth, a limitless heaven, the ability to fly, evolution, planetary formation etc do not "eliminate" religion. No, but for a large proportion of the population, the more we understand our world/universe (or whatever), the more our ideas change regarding what we believe god is, or the breadth and depth of our religious beliefs change.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #196 June 14, 2007 QuoteYou already answered your question earlier. By your rules I would be guilty just as you. Then since you are guilty as charged, should God send you to heaven or hell when you die? QuoteBut of course you believe so by your rules you are exempt. It's all very silly. Belief alone is not enough. "Even the demons believe and tremble." QuoteThere is very little difference between mythology and religion. I'm not talking about religion here. Religion can damn a person quicker than just about anything else. What I'm talking about here is Jesus Christ and what he did at the cross. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #197 June 14, 2007 QuoteTrue in exactly the same sense as you meant when you said "I know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?"" Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism or whatever else you can come up with has no solution for the problem of sin and its penalty. They can't save you. Religion is man's attempt to justify him/herself. They all require that you "work" your way to some form of salvation/better afterlife/whatever. It's all a futile attempt, however, because "there is none that does good, no, not one." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #198 June 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou already answered your question earlier. By your rules I would be guilty just as you. Then since you are guilty as charged, should God send you to heaven or hell when you die? QuoteBut of course you believe so by your rules you are exempt. It's all very silly. Belief alone is not enough. "Even the demons believe and tremble." QuoteThere is very little difference between mythology and religion. I'm not talking about religion here. Religion can damn a person quicker than just about anything else. What I'm talking about here is Jesus Christ and what he did at the cross. All of what you wrote means nothing to me. What are you trying to accomplish? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #199 June 14, 2007 QuoteIslam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism or whatever else you can come up with has no solution for the problem of sin and its penalty. They can't save you. I know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?"Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #200 June 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteIslam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism or whatever else you can come up with has no solution for the problem of sin and its penalty. They can't save you. I know you don't believe. What I asked you was, "If it's true, will you be innocent or guilty?" Believe what? I was being pretty specific. You are not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
